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New York Times Poll: Evangelicals Agree with Dr. Dobson
CitizenLink.com ^ | 10-8-2007 | Jennifer Mesko

Posted on 10/08/2007 5:17:30 PM PDT by monomaniac

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I LOVE ANN COULTER - SHE’S RIGHT!!! I love Hunter, too.


61 posted on 10/08/2007 6:34:52 PM PDT by NordP (If illegal alien = "undocumented immigrant" then drug dealer = "unlicensed pharmacist")
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To: roses of sharon; dawn53
I don't hear all of Hannity but he has been arguing with Dr. Dobson about his non-support of Guliani and possible support of a third candidate. He is very,very much pushing Guliani.

He should be working to promote a candidate who is pro-life, pro-traditional marriage and pro second amendment. Conservatives have not been voting because they don't see someone that supports their views. Holding your nose to vote for the lesser of 2 evils only works for so long.

62 posted on 10/08/2007 6:37:22 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: dawn53

I think there are those that just do not understand that the social issues are what the Evangelical community major on. We cannot compromise on the sanctity of the innocent life of the unborn. If Goering was running against Hitler I would sit that one out also. I wouldn’t choose the lesser of two evils.


63 posted on 10/08/2007 6:39:56 PM PDT by gscc
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To: donna
First, this nation is not what it was 200 years ago. It has drifted far from its religious moorings. As a christian, I know that can only be restored by a revival brought about by God. Conservatives see the world for what it is and deal with the situation appropriately. In that respect, christianity and conservatism are at an uneasy tension with one another.

Second, many presidents have been professor of the christian religion, but that does not mean that they actually embraced Christ with a true faith. This country has always had leaders who professed Christ, but often their politics got in the way of their faith. Something that modern evangelicals seem to forget.

Third, evangelicals must realize that they have, like it or not, become part of a political coalition. Many establishment libs hated Clinton for approving welfare reform, but they did not abandon him. Rather they still effuse love for the guy. Evangelicals do not have the same affection for someone who deviates from their evangelical principles.

Fourth, which christian magistrate is the most useful to God's people? The one who professes Christ but does is soft in combat and actually does nothing to protect God's people from the Muslim horde, or one who is extremely inconsistent in his principles and profession, but annihilates the buggers from off the face of the homeland?

I am casting my vote for a commander in chief, not a pastor. Both have their useful roles but I will not confuse the two.

64 posted on 10/08/2007 6:40:25 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Taggart_D

Finally!! You nailed it! Dobson is telling the GOP what he will accept and will not accept. I happen to agree with him. It seems it is okay for everyone to voice their opinions and vote their principles except certain Christians.


65 posted on 10/08/2007 6:41:17 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: SE Mom
The thing that gets me is these folks stand are principle are full of crap.

I am sorry but the that is all there is to it.

They are willing to condemn babies to death for another 20 years or more. We have a shot at actually getting the judges in place with several of these guys WHO CAN ACTUALLY WIN. Judges are the only ones who can do this, we don’t have the votes in congress for an amendment for the foreseeable future, if ever.

If Hillary gets in, and gets judges appointed, we have another 2-3 decades of death before we may, and I mean may, get a crack at it again. I think this is it though, I think abortion maybe the rule of the land forever if we don’t take the WH with someone from this side, someone who can win and do it now while we face several SCOTUS retirements. This is not bringing on Jimmy Carter, HRC will be there for two terms and will get the judges. That is not a "lesson" to the republican, it is damning the innocent.

Selfish fools are going to bring on the very thing the abhor to pass. Idiotic, pure and simple.

I’ll be the first to pitch in for the memorial to more dead babies with quotes that these folks at least stood on principle...

66 posted on 10/08/2007 6:41:52 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: Kimberly GG

The fact is that Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee and Duncan Hunter are not going to get the nomination.


67 posted on 10/08/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Kimberly GG
Count me in too!

I'm with Dobson AND Ann Coulter!

68 posted on 10/08/2007 6:43:41 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: dawn53
"Play our way or we’ll take our “marlbes” and go home."

Unfortunately that's the way the game is played and for the pro-life folks, it is life and death. Truly it has been death for 40-50 million Americans. They see that this may be the last time to have any sway to get abortion outlawed.

69 posted on 10/08/2007 6:44:23 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: dawn53

Same here, I am against all those three plus McCain. What is wrong with that? Some folks like one of the four but some of us don’t care for any of them. They’re lousy candidates and would make lousy presidents.


70 posted on 10/08/2007 6:45:15 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: upsdriver

It’s fine for certain christians to vote their principles but those christians cannot by voting their principles impugn the principle of others. IN other words, they cannot say anyone who votes for Fred can’t be a good christian. Second, they must be willing to accept the consequences of their actions, realizing that if they abandon the GOP and the GOP goes on to win, they will no longer have a place at the table.


71 posted on 10/08/2007 6:45:39 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: ejonesie22

You have to think the Evangelical community is full of gullible idiots that will believe a pro-abortion candidate like Giuliani with nominate supreme court justices that will overturn Wade. Can you say O’Connor, Souter, Kennedy and Stevens. I am not getting fooled again.


72 posted on 10/08/2007 6:47:23 PM PDT by gscc
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

I’m voting for someone who knows the value of life.


73 posted on 10/08/2007 6:47:54 PM PDT by donna (Perhaps if republicans would adhere to the Bible’s first 10 Commandments they wouldn’t need an 11th.)
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To: Eagles6
Sorry, I missed H&C tonight, I’ll catch the rerun, I was going by what I have heard on his radio show.

I’m sure that SH is a good Conservative, and he probably believes that RG will not be hostile to us on those issues, or maybe he believes that RG has changed or something, much like other candidates do over time, and with age.

Yes, holding your nose is aggravating, but it is reality, for most of us, a reality that encompasses our entire voting lives.

If you ask anyone older, you will find that if we are lucky, we maybe get one candidate in our lives that we are passionate about.

Most are flawed, (as we are), and with media attention now, every little hair out of place is amplified. But, its' SO early, no need to worry now, the debates are just getting started!

74 posted on 10/08/2007 6:49:32 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Eagles6

If evangelicals throw this election to Hillary, she appoints another Ginsburg to the Court and Roe stays on the books for another 30 years, those evangelicals will have the blood of another 40 million babies on their hands.


75 posted on 10/08/2007 6:50:45 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: gscc

Giuliani ain’t going to make it. It will be Thompson or Romney.


76 posted on 10/08/2007 6:51:23 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: gscc

Good grief! I’m NOT a Rudy supporter.


77 posted on 10/08/2007 6:51:37 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: All

Screw Dobson and screw Ann Coulter. I was so excited when Fred said he was not gonna dance to anyones tune and hearing Dobson’s pathetic excuse on Hannity and Colmes about the crap he spewed about Fred just made me even more excited.

Start your little “Third party” Dobson, no one gives a Shat about it or you.


78 posted on 10/08/2007 6:52:53 PM PDT by RedOhioan
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

These are all the same things republicans said about Bush.

How many babies has President Bush saved?


79 posted on 10/08/2007 6:53:51 PM PDT by donna (Perhaps if republicans would adhere to the Bible’s first 10 Commandments they wouldn’t need an 11th.)
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To: SoCalPol

“I am as Conservative as Dobson but, his third party, or sit at home routine puts abortion judges on the court.”

He isn’t really wanting that to happen. What Dobson wants if for the Republican party to straighten up and fly right. It really isn’t all that complicated. Look at the weak field of candidates we have running and the worst are at the top of the polls. It is thoroughly depressing. The MSM doesn’t have to divide and conquer, our choices will do that job for them.

There is only one candidate that I will be truly excited to vote for. Everyone else is a “I might have to but could care less” vote.


80 posted on 10/08/2007 6:54:44 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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