[Eric Blair 2084]

Seriously, see SJackson’s post upthread.

I was trying to encourage a meaningful discussion about what the Founding Fathers would do after 9/11 vis a vis Iraq, as opposed to the usual namecalling and personal insults.

[George W. Bush]

Seen elsewhere:

Ron Paul says other people in Congress come up to him and ask "How do you get people to put up signs for you all over the place?"
Ron Paul's response: "I don't know, they just do."

Dry. Very dry.

[SJackson]

I was trying to encourage a meaningful discussion about what the Founding Fathers would do after 9/11 vis a vis Iraq, as opposed to the usual namecalling and personal insults.

I'm assuming that wasn't a criticism aimed at me, if it was, be more specific.

Personally I think Paul and his supporters should drop all this stupidity of Ron Paul as the all knowing of the Founders intent. If the last 30 years of the 18th century was characterized by anything, it was disagreement. Those people we revere (and we don't revere plenty who considered themselves patriots at the time) weren't a monolith.