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Science teacher's brush with police ends in heart attack
NY Daily News ^ | October 8th 2007 | JOHN MARZULLI

Posted on 10/08/2007 9:23:47 AM PDT by SubGeniusX

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To: Scotsman will be Free
Ok. Now go wipe the spittle off of your chin.

Oh Scotsman... Now I read your profile & I understand where you're coming from. You're sucking off the tit that I'm paying for. You never produced a useful good or service during your entire career but you're playing self-righteous now.

Were you a traffic cop? Did you make pregnant women cry by giving them traffic tickets? How about demanding that unsuspecting motorists let you search their car without telling them they could simply say 'no?'. Cops are invariably the people we identified in high school as people that would be, but shouldn't be, people in any position of authority.

No, you did nothing useful. You are a worthless human being and the world would be no worse off without the last 30 years of your life. Wow that sucks. I'd hate to be you. But you're too stupid to know that (if you weren't stupid you wouldn't have been a cop - you'd have done something useful).

381 posted on 10/08/2007 8:58:19 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: SubGeniusX

There is no gray area between you and the Tyrant’s gun.


382 posted on 10/08/2007 9:16:32 PM PDT by DonnerT (Rudi; A jackass in elephant drag!.)
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To: elkfersupper
Whatever anyone else would be charged with were they not wearing a gun and a badge.

Yup. The cops' immunity needs to be changed drastically. If they do anything outside the scope of their lawful rights and responsibilities they need to be treated just like the rest of us: personally liable for their actions. That means if you search a car, arrest a suspect, harass a citizen - and you aren't absolutely, completely justified in doing so - then you lose your house. Why do these people get to play by different rules than the rest of us?

383 posted on 10/08/2007 9:18:26 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: Scotsman will be Free
I'd like to amend my reply at #381.

I see your tagline and to whatever extent your career might have included military service I retract my comments regarding your career. It isn't clear that you did, but if you served in the military then thank you for that - that is very honorable work.

384 posted on 10/08/2007 9:34:08 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: VRing
they lowered the standards about 2 years ago. they are REALLY scraping the bottom of the barrel now. all their lists from prior tests are used up and now they are begging for people. the last class was budgeted for 2800. they were lucky that they got about 1300 (that's the number i heard).

in about 5 years, the rookies going in now will be off probation and beginning to get into specialized units, and becoming bosses and detectives.

all the veterans are leaving after 20 years. there was a huge hiring boom in the mid-80's and they are all leaving. no more expertise to help the young guys. the job has gotten very young. it's going to be bad.

385 posted on 10/08/2007 10:33:34 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: BearCub

You are a fool, and a mindless bigot. Return to your media masters’ laps and continue licking their butts. You are very good at it.


386 posted on 10/08/2007 10:36:09 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
You are a fool, and a mindless bigot. Return to your media masters’ laps and continue licking their butts. You are very good at it.

I was going to call you a bootlicker but then I realized you were a bootwearer. 'Nuff said.

387 posted on 10/08/2007 10:45:22 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Why don’t you respond to my #383? That would be a productive thing to do. Beats harassing innocent citizens (in my book at least).


388 posted on 10/08/2007 10:57:37 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: elkfersupper
Whatever anyone else would be charged with were they not wearing a gun and a badge.

And what charge would that be?

389 posted on 10/09/2007 4:18:03 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: BearCub
That means if you search a car, arrest a suspect, harass a citizen - and you aren't absolutely, completely justified in doing so - then you lose your house.

Are people's homes regularly confiscated if they break into cars or harass people?

I'm unaware of any legal code, federal or state, which contains "loss of house" as a scheduled penalty for a misdemeanor - or even a felony.

390 posted on 10/09/2007 5:16:08 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
“Yeah.......coppers have a way of causing cardiac artery plaque buildup, right?

“If so, there’d be a whole lot of twenty-somethings needing bypasses. This 50 y/o has been eating fat for a long time, and his bypass number came up.”


Are you taking the side of the police in this? At the very least, those officers could have seen the man to a hospital to make certain he was alright. That would have been a legitimate public service not violating any regulations. They could have called the EMTs on the spot.

Had the man been merely acting, he could have been charged with interfering with police officers in the performance of their duties, and other such.

Regardless of how police officers are capable of making mistakes as are any other human beings, their training should have made room for this man to be checked out, since they discovered on the spot that the stop and rough handling was their error.

No, they just abandoned this man. NOT good public service.

391 posted on 10/09/2007 5:29:57 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789
The day will be coming when some LEOs taser or pepper spray some five year old dressed up for Halloween with a plastic pirate sword, killing the child. The over-the-top "cops do no wrong" will come to the immediate defense of the thugs in blue, saying that he deserved it for dressing up as a terrorist and carrying a dangerous weapon.

American liberty is as much threatened by the "law 'n' order" types who wrongly call themselves conservatives as they are by the "nanny state" socialists who want to regulate every aspect of human life.

392 posted on 10/09/2007 5:40:48 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

“American liberty is as much threatened by the “law ‘n’ order” types who wrongly call themselves conservatives as they are by the “nanny state” socialists who want to regulate every aspect of human life.”


You said it!


393 posted on 10/09/2007 5:50:23 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: BearCub

Three things. I didn’t read your post 383 so I couldn’t respond to it. Secondly, I wish to thank you for repeatedly making my original point with your posts. It’s quite amusing to watch.
Lastly, you should be proud of yourself. You are the bootwearer, here. You are the quintesential SA brownshirt. You have no cognitive abilities or upper brain function. It’s all raw, emotion driven responses to spoonfed media stories. Just like the original brownshirts you are a tool, a useful idiot.
Again, thanks for proving that over and over, and over again.
One last thing. Being in the military in and of itself isn’t anymore honorable than flipping burgers. It’s what you do while in that is either honorable or not. Had you ever served(it’s obvious that you have not. Your type never do)you would know what I’m talking about.


394 posted on 10/09/2007 5:53:29 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: RachelFaith
And you are manifesting the early weaning syndrome.SmileyCentral.com
395 posted on 10/09/2007 6:03:05 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: Elyse
“It’s disengenous to revise your statement and then act like you were oh so reasonable from the start. You went off half-cocked blanketly condemning the policewoman without considering all the facts.”

The only “facts” we have are that the police caused an innocent man to have a heart attack. You are the one who made up the possibility that the police woman was not responsible for that. You made that up out of thin air. I didn’t revise my original statement. I simply clarified it to include the possibility that your fantasy facts could be true. I never wanted to jail officers who did not cause his heart attack.

I realize this explanation won’t mean much to you. You and your fellow police groupies are grasping at any straws in your attempts to defend the indefensible. If it makes you feel better I will admit that I should have said “If she was involved with causing this mans heart attack, she belongs in jail” in the first place. Happy now?

396 posted on 10/09/2007 6:36:40 AM PDT by monday
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To: Scotsman will be Free
...spoonfed media stories.

Exactly. No other media report is given the free pass that these "the cops are thugs" stories gets.

Every other piece of MSM spin gets dissected and challenged -- but not with these. What's up with that?

397 posted on 10/09/2007 7:42:34 AM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: wideawake
Are people's homes regularly confiscated if they break into cars or harass people? I'm unaware of any legal code, federal or state, which contains "loss of house" as a scheduled penalty for a misdemeanor - or even a felony

My post was regarding the loss of immunity - the civil immunity police have when performing their job. The police should be personally responsible for their actions in civil court, just like the rest of us. They screw up, get sued and lose their 'stuff'.

398 posted on 10/09/2007 7:56:56 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: darkangel82

It’s called ass hats that can’t recognize typos.


399 posted on 10/09/2007 9:03:18 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: elkfersupper
Almost every time

Interesting. Seems like any time I read an article that claims police abuse, the names of the officers involved have been given.

400 posted on 10/09/2007 12:24:33 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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