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Science teacher's brush with police ends in heart attack
NY Daily News ^ | October 8th 2007 | JOHN MARZULLI

Posted on 10/08/2007 9:23:47 AM PDT by SubGeniusX

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To: BearCub

Why didn’t your dad help the poor woman?


201 posted on 10/08/2007 11:48:23 AM PDT by donna (Whoopi on Communism: “We haven’t given it enough time.”)
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To: wideawake
” Her statement, according the laws of the physical universe, could not cause an event that already occurred.”

How bizarre? You think we are advocating assault charges be brought against the lady cop for her insensitive remark? Have you already forgotten the cuffing, head banging, the knee to the back? That was the assault.

Honestly, if you are reduced to such pathetic arguments, why bother?

202 posted on 10/08/2007 11:48:59 AM PDT by monday
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To: donna; BearCub
Why didn’t your dad help the poor woman?

That's a good question, BearCub. Why did your dad sit back and let that woman die?

Perhaps he should have been charged with depraved indifference, eh?

203 posted on 10/08/2007 11:50:21 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
You are completely irrational and your disjointed and illogical commentary now makes perfect sense: you are obsessed.

Yeah, what I said does seem a little harsh.

But it has nothing to do with what happened here, which is yet another example of police using excessive force and losing sight of the fact that we is the boss and they is the employee.

204 posted on 10/08/2007 11:50:31 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: wideawake
“They didn’t do anything criminal, and nothing described in the article equates to a firing offense.”

I suspect that in your opinion, there is nothing a LEO could do that would amount to a firing offense. Genocide would just be all in a days work.

205 posted on 10/08/2007 11:51:57 AM PDT by monday
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To: donna
Why didn’t your dad help the poor woman?

He would have in heartbeat (he's a doctor), but he sleeps like a log. He didn't hear her knock.

206 posted on 10/08/2007 11:52:10 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: wideawake
Why did your dad sit back and let that woman die?

She didn't die and he didn't ignore her. He was asleep. Perhaps the cops should have attended to her instead of assaulting innocent people.

207 posted on 10/08/2007 11:53:33 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: monday
Have you already forgotten the cuffing, head banging, the knee to the back? That was the assault.

The headbanging and the knee to the back are what the plaintiff claims.

I'm sure there is another side to the story - a side which may be potentially less lucrative for the plaintiff.

The cuffing is part of a stop-and-hold which may or may not be for probable cause.

208 posted on 10/08/2007 11:54:04 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: BearCub

“So whose door did they come crashing through? Dad’s. They threw him off the bed and handcuffed him.”

They probably thought he would be the safest one for them to arrest. Safe meaning he wouldn’t fight back.


209 posted on 10/08/2007 11:55:33 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: wideawake
The cuffing is part of a stop-and-hold which may or may not be for probable cause.

Um, a cuffing is an arrest (he's not free to leave). Probable cause is the lowest standard under which an arrest may be made.

210 posted on 10/08/2007 11:56:37 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: monday
I suspect that in your opinion, there is nothing a LEO could do that would amount to a firing offense. Genocide would just be all in a days work.

I understand that your stock in trade is hyperbole - but do you really think that people reading this thread can't tell the difference between telling someone to "stop acting" and eliminating a race of people?

Clearly you aren't interested in a serious discussion - you're engaging in the rhetorical equivalent of foaming at the mouth.

211 posted on 10/08/2007 11:56:41 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: SubGeniusX

Oh, my.


212 posted on 10/08/2007 11:56:57 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: verity; oh8eleven
I hope all you cop haters are enjoying yourselves. Don't forget to wipe the spittle off your chins.

I think it is a “libertarian thing” wherein authority is construed as an unnecessary evil. I believe it has something to do with premature weaning. LMAO.

It always freaks me out in these kind of threads that there are as many people on a conservative forum willing to jump on any chance to malign the police. You get a one-sided story from a guy that has filed a lawsuit and a part of the fringe element around here goes wackadoodle over it.

213 posted on 10/08/2007 11:57:36 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: SubGeniusX

Jackbooted thugs.


214 posted on 10/08/2007 11:57:59 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: wideawake
“The headbanging and the knee to the back are what the plaintiff claims.”

You mean the victim? Since the assault caused a heart attack, it’s not hard to believe the victim in this case.

215 posted on 10/08/2007 11:58:35 AM PDT by monday
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To: BearCub
Um, a cuffing is an arrest (he's not free to leave).

Either way you want to describe it, probable cause is the standard.

216 posted on 10/08/2007 11:59:50 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Elyse
It always freaks me out in these kind of threads that there are as many people on a conservative forum willing to jump on any chance to malign the police

It's sort of unrelated, but jump over to the Cato Institutes's No-Knock Raid Map. Scads of examples of why we should be suspicious of police.

217 posted on 10/08/2007 12:01:07 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: wideawake
Either way you want to describe it, probable cause is the standard.

Dude. YOU said the arrest didn't have to be for probable cause (#208). I said it did.

A car not matching the description of the one you're looking for doesn't seem like proable cause to me. Does it to you?

218 posted on 10/08/2007 12:03:13 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: monday
You mean the victim?

Just because the plaintiff, his attorney and you all want to celebrate his supposed victimhood, doesn;t mean that it is established.

Since the assault caused a heart attack, it’s not hard to believe the victim in this case.

Whether or not he had a "heart attack" isn't established, either. For all we know he had a panic attack and when he went to the hospital they discovered an undiagnosed cardiac condition and scheduled him for surgery weeks later.

You make a ton of assumptions here with nothing in the way of established fact to back it up.

219 posted on 10/08/2007 12:03:35 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: BearCub

Oops. proable = probable


220 posted on 10/08/2007 12:03:38 PM PDT by BearCub
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