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Israel used electronic attack in air strike against Syrian mystery target
Aviation Week ^ | October 08, 2007 | By David A. Fulghum and Douglas Barrie

Posted on 10/07/2007 11:53:36 PM PDT by jdm

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Israel may have tricked Syria radars to conceal raid

1 posted on 10/07/2007 11:53:39 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ping.


2 posted on 10/07/2007 11:53:55 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

Thanks....I’ll add this to the List... .


3 posted on 10/07/2007 11:57:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Appreciate it much. Thanks.


4 posted on 10/07/2007 11:57:46 PM PDT by jdm
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how did Israel’s non-stealthy warplanes fly undetected through the Russian-made air defense radars

...Russian-made...

Asked and answered, apparently.

5 posted on 10/08/2007 12:03:01 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonia. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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To: jdm

bttt


6 posted on 10/08/2007 12:04:45 AM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: Darkwolf377

LOL


7 posted on 10/08/2007 12:09:14 AM PDT by jdm
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I used to have two Turkish science students as housemates, and they’d go on for hours at how rotten Russian technology is. You would have been rolling on the floor if you listened to their descriptions of Russian manufacturing methods and crappy products. Since then, I can’t really understand why anyone would go to them, the Radio Shack of military technology.


8 posted on 10/08/2007 12:14:39 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonia. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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To: jdm
Israelis step up to the plate again. So how much beer do we owe them this time?

Iran bought 29 of the Tor launchers from Russia for $750 million to guard its nuclear sites, and they were delivered in January, according to Agence France-Presse and ITAR-TASS. According to the Syrian press, they were tested in February. Syria has also upgraded some of its aging S-125s (SA-3 Goa) to the Pechora-2A standard. This upgrade swaps out obsolete analog components for digital.

As I hear it, this wasn't some "Blue Light Special" at K-Mart. This was an advanced, top of the line aerial defense system. Extremely high-tech.

And yet the syrio-fascists didn't know they were under attack until they saw the smoke. The systems didn't do anything. They just sat there. BLINDED...

As stated, these are the same or similar systems that Iran employs.

The mullah's heads are in a tizzy right now, dontchaknow?


9 posted on 10/08/2007 1:41:37 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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I used to have two Turkish science students as housemates, and they’d go on for hours at how rotten Russian technology is. ==

What would turkish students know about the subject? Russia did never export no military products to Turkey ever.


10 posted on 10/08/2007 2:01:51 AM PDT by RusIvan (It is amazing how easily those dupes swallow the supidiest russophobic fairy tales:))))
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What would turkish students know about the subject? Russia did never export no military products to Turkey ever.

Who said they did?

They were both graduate students in physics and engineering and seemed to know what they were talking about from a technical level.

11 posted on 10/08/2007 2:03:59 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonian. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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To: Caipirabob

Some of the world’s most prolific systems engineers in theory and prototype are Jewish and Israeli. Assuming one can buy a more sophisticated system than Israel can outwit isn’t very intelligent. (assuming NP hard problems aren’t that frequent)


12 posted on 10/08/2007 2:07:09 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: jdm

The U.S. version of the system has been at the very least tested operationally in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last year, most likely against insurgent communication networks. The technology allows users to invade communications networks, see what enemy sensors see and even take over as systems administrator so sensors can be manipulated into positions where approaching aircraft can’t be seen, they say. The process involves locating enemy emitters with great precision and then directing data streams into them that can include false targets and misleading messages that allow a number of activities including control. ==

Fairy tales:) Use your brains please. How one may see what I see if he didn’t know the my coding procedure? One may blind radar by emitting the electormagnetic noise but in this case one become visible and could be shot.

IMO it is the possible scenario that US airplane jammed Syria radar then israeli plane got through and hit the target. Syrians of cause hesitated to shoot on to US plane jamming them so this attack went successful.
During the actual war the jamming aircraft will be the first ever target so this scenario will be impossible.


13 posted on 10/08/2007 2:07:42 AM PDT by RusIvan (It is amazing how easily those dupes swallow the supidiest russophobic fairy tales:))))
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What would turkish students know about the subject? Russia did never export no military products to Turkey ever.
Who said they did?

They were both graduate students in physics and engineering and seemed to know what they were talking about from a technical level.==

So it was just “hear-say” since they didn’t have no personal knowledge as you admit?:) So funny:))


14 posted on 10/08/2007 2:09:57 AM PDT by RusIvan (It is amazing how easily those dupes swallow the supidiest russophobic fairy tales:))))
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It’s possible that the Israeli jets provided cover (in the form of decoys) for an attack by a US space-based weapon. Classic misdirection. The Syrians are still scratching their heads - - they don’t know what happened.


15 posted on 10/08/2007 2:12:35 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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So it was just “hear-say” since they didn’t have no personal knowledge as you admit?:) So funny:))

"as you admit"? I don't understand your point. Are you saying that people who are scientists-in-training in America know nothing about Russian technology?

Why are you so invested in defending Russian technology, which certainly doesn't have a rep for being state-of-the-art?

16 posted on 10/08/2007 2:13:41 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonian. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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To: RusIvan
Actually, looking at your history of posts answers all of my questions I might have for you.

Other FReepers might find them of interest, too. They sure are...interesting reading.

17 posted on 10/08/2007 2:23:37 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonian. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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Are you saying that people who are scientists-in-training in America know nothing about Russian technology? ==

No matter were they trained if they do not have the “hand-on” experience then they just tell you bla-bla-bla. But you like to listen it:).


18 posted on 10/08/2007 3:13:00 AM PDT by RusIvan (It is amazing how easily those dupes swallow the supidiest russophobic fairy tales:))))
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Why are you so invested in defending Russian technology, which certainly doesn’t have a rep for being state-of-the-art?==

The military technology should be robust at first then very reliable. Like AK machine gun.
Secondly you should understand that Syria has the 20 years old soviet export-type equipment. This old equipment competes with the newest US equipment. I would be surprised that new technology beats the old one.


19 posted on 10/08/2007 3:22:34 AM PDT by RusIvan (It is amazing how easily those dupes swallow the supidiest russophobic fairy tales:))))
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To: RusIvan
No matter were they trained if they do not have the “hand-on” experience then they just tell you bla-bla-bla. But you like to listen it:).

You're very paranoid. If you look at my post, I never claimed they were in Russia, never claimed they had "hands-on"...but then, I don't know, perhaps they did.

Nothing I claimed was untrue, so I guess I don't know what your problem is. I merely related a funny incident. One has only to look at the data to see that Russian technology is nothing compared to the west's, particularly military tech.

20 posted on 10/08/2007 3:22:49 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonian. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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