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To: RightFighter
I absolutely agree. But I also know I won't believe something, especially when it comes to religion, just because people here claim it is so. For the record, I asked two very knowledgeable and trusted Christian friends today is Jesus is God. They are 51 and 58 and have been Christians their entire lives. And I was pleasantly surprised that they, too, believed as I do- that Jesus is the Son of God, part of the Holy Trinity with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Yet they do not believe that Jesus is God. Now whether that makes me right, them right, folks here right... who is to say? It will be an interesting topic in church, that's for sure. But having been raised as a Christian, to know the Holy Trinity and the Son of God, no where was I ever taught that Jesus is God.

What fascinates me more is that so many here are so quick to condemn and judge because someone simply believes something different. In a way, I am surprised. But then again, I'm not. This is FreeRepubic after all.

295 posted on 10/08/2007 4:55:57 PM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: rintense

I understand how you feel. However, I would just say that there are plenty of answers to your question that don’t come from the opinions of anyone on this board. Consider this from John 1:

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.”

Then, in verse 14: “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.”

In John 10:30, Jesus said “I and the Father are one.”

In John 14:7-10 - “ If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.” Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. “

From the Old Testament prophecy, in Isaiah 9:6-7, we see this: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever.”

Who is this child that these verses speak of? It’s Christ, of course, and yet in the same verses, he is called “Mighty God” and “Everlasting Father”.

This is another one that is drawn from both the Old and New Testaments. In Exodus 3, where Moses encounters God in the burning bush. God tells Moses that he is the one He has chosen to lead the Israelites out of Egypt. Moses says to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me ‘What is His name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” God replies to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

So, God has said that His own name, His personal name, is “I AM.”

Now, turning to John 8:56-58, we see that Jesus is talking to the unbelieving Jews. “Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing My day; he saw it and was glad.” “You are not yet 50 years old,” they said to Him, “and you have seen Abraham?” “I tell you the truth,” Jesus announced, “before Abraham was, I AM!”

Jesus was the great I AM from before the beginning of time; He existed before Abraham ever was. He is claiming here to be the I AM of the Old Testament. Christ is God, and yet he is also the Son of God - this is a mystery we will never be able to comprehend in our little minds.


345 posted on 10/09/2007 8:02:53 AM PDT by RightFighter
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