Posted on 10/07/2007 10:23:40 AM PDT by janetjanet998
Edited on 10/07/2007 10:34:41 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Yep, and then he’s already in too much trouble to go making any more, except for the enemy of course.
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True Dat,,,
Point : This shooter was not Screened !.Period.Bottom~Line.
No that ain’t a “cure~all”,,,But we gotta use what we got...
Good reply.
‘He called the step father of the girl that was killed to tell him what he had done and basically rub it in his face. He also told him that they would never get him alive. What sort of person does that, and what kind of person would actually take the side of someone that twisted?’
The kind that built up rage for years. It completely debunks the comment thats always offered up in the aftermath of these sort of things, like in the original article at the top of this thread; ‘He just snapped’.
Thats a urban myth. Nobody ‘just snaps’.
Its how the liberal MSM tries to avoid blaming a person for their actions.
I knew immediately the shootings were not ‘justified’.
Have you ever in your life heard of a cop killing a half dozen people by himself that was afterwards ‘justified’?
I haven’t.
Most of us are waiting for more information before opining on whether the shootings could possibly have been justified”
Lets see here. He’s 21, one of the victims is an ex, there were 6 shot and he ran away afterwards. How much info do you need?
Exactly.
What I would like to know is how long the SWAT team waited out side before doing something? I am convinced that SWAT teams goals is not about saving the maximum number of lives.
‘A witness says 10 area youth between the ages of 17 and 20 were at the home at the time of the shooting.’
If this is true, we’re going to find out exactly what led up to this massacre, what happened while it was taking place. And how some managed to escape.
Welcome to FR
Dad said he had pink underwear for months...
Thinking of you...
There were only the six that were shot. The ten was just a wrong early report.
Excuse me, seven, one survived to tell the tale.
Sounds like that was a warning...
some 911 audio is on jsonline.com
They put Dad in charge of that.
A couple months later the base commander called my dad and asked “What happened to the discipline problem?” Dad said “What problem?” The commander said, “That’s what I wanted to hear.” and rung off.
It seems the Marines much preferred to be sent to fill sandbags. They viewed it as an honorable and appropriate punishment that allowed them to work off their aggression and energy, provided something that the base always needed, and more importantly didn’t end up in their personnel jacket to mess up their future careers and promotions.
My Dad’s a wiseguy in more ways than one...
My Dad’s a wiseguy in more ways than one...
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Bump Dat,,,Sometimes life depends on sandbags...
I have wondered how the shooter was able to leave the scene of the massacre after he fired on a fellow officer’s car. Well it turns out that the first responder responded by turning tail and running. And he’s being called a hero for it:
www.wjfw.com...
21-Year-Old Greg Carter is the Police Officer who heard the gun shots fired early Sunday morning. Carter put the car in reverse and sped away. He wasn’t hit by any bullets, but he was cut from the flying glass. Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen is praising Carter for his actions. Van Hollen says, “Officer Carter displayed a tremendous amount of bravery and intelligence during this trying time. He performed exactly as trained under these circumstances, saving his life.
So quite clearly the life of the hero is more important than any innocent victim that might be in the gunman’s way. But what do we expect anymore? At Columbine the cops waited outside the library while the trenchcoat mafia massacred the kids within.
Vermont Tech, Colombine, Denver Post Office, Illinois Navistar, Texas McDonalds, on and on......
- The first rule of government is to protect themselves, not you.
- Government has no legal responsibility to protect any single individual from any specific known threat.
- An unrestrained government will make every effort to eliminate your ability to defend yourself.
It took a multitude of WI LEO -11 hours- to confront the Crandon shooter.
Then our AG gives us the whopper that the shooter shot himself THREE TIMES IN THE HEAD with a .40 Glock.
Wisconsin is starting to make Arkansas look good......
Timeline: Crandon shootings
Posted: Oct. 11, 2007
State authorities continue to investigate exactly what happened between the time Tyler Peterson arrived at his friend’s house Sunday after slaying six young people in Crandon until his death.
Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen released a timeline of events surrounding the crime that revealed some new details, such as that Peterson may have been intoxicated, but did not explain some time gaps or account for many 911 calls that people at the house say they made - including while Peterson reportedly took a nap in his pickup truck .
The state Department of Criminal Investigation is overseeing the case. Officials with the department have refused to release the 911 tapes or autopsy reports or respond to any questions about the case.
(Timeline is from department. Text in italics is added for context.)
Midnight: Tyler drops off Katie and Matt at cabin (Matt Kegley is Tyler’s friend. Katie is Matt’s girlfriend. The cabin is the Kegley home in Argonne, north of Crandon)
2:30: Tyler arrives at Hazeldell residence (203 N. Hazeldell Ave. is where killings took place)
2:43: Tyler walks out of Hazeldell residence first time and retrieves gun
2:47: Shots reported by Crandon police officer
2:48: Shots fired at Crandon police officer
2:51: 203 N. Hazeldell reports gunshots, black truck
2:53: Laona and Wabeno medics paged
2:55: Dispatcher advises squads that shooter is at 201 N. Hazeldell (It is not clear why the address is different)
3:00: Tyler starts to drive to see his brother, then drives aimlessly around Lincoln, Forest and Langlade counties
3:01: Ambulance arrives at scene
3:09: Dep. Ashbeck requests Tyler Peterson to call him
3:10: Chief Dep. Ken Van Cleve requests Dep. Tyler Peterson to call him or meet him
4:20: DCI Assistance Requested
4:30: DCI en route (DCI is state Department of Criminal Investigation)
4:53: Tyler makes contact with law enforcement
5:10: Steve Peterson gets off phone with Tyler (Steve is Tyler’s father)
5:13: Tyler indicates there is no taking back what he did - tell others
5:58: Contact State Patrol to provide troopers to assist with crowd control and scene containment (People are gathering at the home where the shootings occurred)
7:50: Tyler goes to cabin (Kegley house)
7:55: Tyler tells people at cabin what he did, seems intoxicated. Tyler says he would turn himself in to John Dennee. Sometime later Mary puts Tyler’s AR-15 on porch swing after Tyler gives it up. Took two other long guns (Dennee is the Crandon police chief; Mary is Matt Kegley’s mother)
8:30: Tyler leaves cabin
9:15: Tyler returns to cabin. Michael leaves, calls 9-1-1, then returns (Michael Kegley is Matt’s father)
9:27: SERT Team staging on County N (Special Emergency Response Team)
9:15-9:30: People in the cabin notice Tyler still has a pistol on his hip
9:40: Steve Peterson calls Tyler. Call goes to voicemail
9:56: Tyler calls Forest County Sheriff
10:36: Tyler calls Forest County Sheriff
12:31 p.m.: Tyler is down
Source: State Department of Criminal Investigation
This timeline is -very- incomplete and there are dozens of 911 calls -still- not available to the public. A significant amount of information is not being released, at this time, due to the AG’s “ongoing investigation”.
Bottom line, six young people shot dead by an LEO and much information is being withheld.
Interestingly, the friend whose house the shooter left before dying said it was more like 2pm when Peterson died. So now its only 12:30pm. Well that takes care of an hour and a half that they don’t have to account for.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=672136
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