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6 friends killed at party in Crandon (WI) - 1 hurt; hours later, SWAT team kills shooter
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 10/7/07 | RAQUEL RUTLEDGE

Posted on 10/07/2007 10:23:40 AM PDT by janetjanet998

Edited on 10/07/2007 10:34:41 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Ken H

I read in one article that a sniper took Peterson out and that the weapon Peterson used to kill with was LE issued.

I also read that he worked for the County full time since he was 19 yrs old and that he worked for the small town he did the killings in, part time and had started working for the town about 1 week ago.


541 posted on 10/09/2007 6:11:06 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: SmoothTalker
“Why are 20 year olds allowed to be officers?”

Why are 18 year olds allowed to manage multi-million dollar weapon systems in Irag and Afghanistan?

I think it’s more about the selection process and training than the age.

Despite alot of criticism of modern teens, I have worked with some very capable young adults. By the same token I have also seen some real dunderheads.

I have also encountered a whole bunch of emotionally stunted 50 year olds. Age is only one part of the equation.

542 posted on 10/09/2007 6:21:21 AM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: CindyDawg

Great. Ignore the original question and go off on a red herring. I raised a valid question; you wish to white wash it. Okay. No point in further discussion when all you want to do is ignore a valid question.


543 posted on 10/09/2007 7:19:19 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; CindyDawg; All

Perhaps. But, age does have a lot to do with being in control of one’s emotions. I’ve watched my own sons grow up, along with many many of their friends. And I’ve seen first hand how at that age there is a lack of maturity and perspective taking involved. I recall my own self at that age, and this is a common thread among young men. Was this one person mentally ill? Was he just not able to fully control his anger/rage? I do not know. But, it’s a well documented phenomenon that the older men get the less likely they are to engage in this type of violent behavior (given that they do not have any mental illness).


544 posted on 10/09/2007 7:26:10 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: hinckley buzzard

True. But, the Army and the Marines do have a vetting process which does eliminate most of the undesirables before they are loosed upon the battle field. Unfortunately, that does not always work and some who become unhinged give the rest a bad and undeserved rep. Of coures, the battle field is a completely different world than one’s own neighborhood here in the U.S. (with the exception of certain areas of the country of course).


545 posted on 10/09/2007 7:32:16 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
I don’t think age has anything to do with being a “nut-case”,,,

That right that's why we like to keep guns out of the hands of nut cases.

546 posted on 10/09/2007 9:08:13 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
If you had one once of sense you would know how tightly controlled ammo and weapon are around the military. They have adult supervision at all times.
547 posted on 10/09/2007 9:12:29 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: hinckley buzzard
It was reported today that the local PD there does not require psychological screening, which if done right is a reliable and tested way to weed out undesirable characters.

Mental evaluation of anyone in this type of position should be a mandatory annual and random requirement. No difference than annual and random blood and drug tests.

548 posted on 10/09/2007 9:17:27 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Why are 18 year olds allowed to manage multi-million dollar weapon systems in Irag and Afghanistan?

I think it’s more about the selection process and training than the age.

Those men are aways, AWAYS, under the direct supervision of an office are a mature supervisor of rank. You don't let a young private stroll around with an assault weapon and a pocket full of ammo they are supervised.

549 posted on 10/09/2007 9:26:40 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
After the Mayor’s “gag order” and “lockdown” Sunday my smell meter pegged out.

Where have you seen that the mayor *issued* these orders ???

News I have read said that "state officials" were called in shortly after this incident......SOP since cops were involved.

My guess would be that "state officials" also *gagged* the mayor from talking to the press.

550 posted on 10/09/2007 10:13:04 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: jedward

So why did you bother to jump in at all? Your lack of interest, and compassion sticks out like a sore thumb.


551 posted on 10/09/2007 10:28:38 AM PDT by LilyBean
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To: jedward

No, you certainly can’t. I see it proven over and over again. How about that Jedward, we agree on something.


552 posted on 10/09/2007 10:30:15 AM PDT by LilyBean
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To: OCCASparky
Crandon Police Chief said that the 20 year old off duty cop “met all requirements” to be a police officer.

Not very high requirements, if you ask me.

Our local department's ranks include a convicted drug felon, caught trying to bring a package of 1000+ doses of Schedule 2 narcotic into our community via the US Mail.

He now has a department-issued Glock handgun and an AR15.

553 posted on 10/09/2007 11:04:56 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Badeye
My point is that nobody ‘just snaps’. Thats a time honored myth thats been debunked by experts for years.

There are indeed those who have drawn a line that will not be crossed, sometimnes by others, sometimes by themselves. And if that line is crossed, all the rules and limits are off.

It now appears that being called *A worthless pig* was what made Tyler Peterson snap.

554 posted on 10/09/2007 11:10:37 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: SoldierDad

Whoa! I didn’t intentionally ignore anything. I had to go to work. I’ll go back and look but.... WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?


555 posted on 10/09/2007 11:17:27 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: archy

I really believe that there can be good people with no history that can under the wrong circumstances do something that they will regret the rest of their lives. If he had not have gone back in he might have lived normally for the rest of his life. JMO.


556 posted on 10/09/2007 11:24:28 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
I really believe that there can be good people with no history that can under the wrong circumstances do something that they will regret the rest of their lives.

Just so, or can experience something at that pivotal point that changes or affects them so profoundly as to alter their future into something they'd not have imagined prior to that focused moment.

If he had not have gone back in he might have lived normally for the rest of his life.

And so he did, though for him *normal* life had changed considerably, and the rest of his life was not very long. He might also have swallowed his pride and gotten into his vehicle and have his life end in a fatal vehicle crash, with or without additional casualties. In which case it's most unlikely that we'd have heard of or have noticed his exit from this world.

But I very much doubt that publicity or public attention was what he was after.

557 posted on 10/09/2007 11:33:18 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: SoldierDad
So, how many stories have been in the news in the past several years about rogue cops or cops going over the line with use of force

This? See post 485

558 posted on 10/09/2007 11:35:12 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SoldierDad
So, how many stories have been in the news in the past several years about rogue cops or cops going over the line with use of force

This? See post 485

559 posted on 10/09/2007 11:35:16 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: archy

As I’ve noted, and we will see in coming weeks, there is much more to this guy’s background then is being made public.

Watch and see. Again, nobody ‘just snaps’. Its a myth. There is always a ‘previous history’ of incidents, that perhaps didn’t draw much attention when they occured, but in hindsight its clear as a bell.


560 posted on 10/09/2007 11:37:47 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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