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Time reporter wouldn't give conflicting source time of day(rebuttal to Time's V-22 hit piece)
amarillo.com ^ | 7 October 2007 | Roger Williams

Posted on 10/07/2007 6:54:38 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham

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1 posted on 10/07/2007 6:54:42 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Don’t ya love it when someone catches Time or the N.Y. time with an agenda get caught?


2 posted on 10/07/2007 6:59:22 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Having been in the CH-46 many times,watched the air detachment work all night to keep them FMC (full mission capable), I’ll take a new MV-22 over a 40 year old rattletrap any day. I doubt the reporter rode in either aircraft.


3 posted on 10/07/2007 7:00:15 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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God I hate CH46s.


4 posted on 10/07/2007 7:02:40 AM PDT by MrEdd (Ron Paul is Ralph Nader for the right...)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/003759.html
I was contacted by Thompson in late August. ... Thompson left out the part where I indicated my support and hopes for VMM-263's success and resultantly I am presented as a "critic."

5 posted on 10/07/2007 7:02:52 AM PDT by Third Order
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To: magslinger

ping


6 posted on 10/07/2007 7:04:33 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Joe Boucher
“Don’t ya love it when someone catches Time or the N.Y. time with an agenda get caught?”
Yeah, but it’s basically a tree fallin’ in a forest with no one but Freepers around to hear it.
7 posted on 10/07/2007 7:06:39 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Joe Boucher

The lie is on page 1, the retraction is on page 30 of a 20 page magazine.

The MSM knows this. The lie will get reported as truth.

That anti-gun hit book based ENTIRELY ON PROVEN LIES AND FRAUD is still reported as truth in the ivy leagues.


8 posted on 10/07/2007 7:14:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; All; shield

http://lexingtoninstitute.org/1183.shtml


9 posted on 10/07/2007 7:17:58 AM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I saw my first Osprey flying up the Hudson Thursday.
‘Way cool! Those huge props were something to see!


10 posted on 10/07/2007 7:29:48 AM PDT by Flintlock (-)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

This is just another (albeit more stealthy) way to disarm our troops and prevent the use of American military force. Unjustified criticism is intended to prevent the adoption of new, and desperately needed equipment. This leaves the services of having to field obsolete equipment, while driving maintenance costs sky high due to age. Meanwhile readiness and combat power suffer.

Further, it must be remembered that not all equipment is going to meet a complete universe of requirements. Get the requirements for the mission right and no problem. Start attempting to make every system gold plated and we’ll never field anything due to cost. Look at what it took to armor Hummers. It’s a damn useful vehicle, but was never intended to be an armored car. The mission requirements changed and demanded what was essentially an armored car - and we managed to adapt. We need to think that way about the Osprey.


11 posted on 10/07/2007 7:35:04 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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Last year, I was invited to a tour of Camp Lejeune, and specifically we made a long stop at the Osprey squadron hangars, where we talked to the commander and several of the officers. Every one said the same thing: "There isn't an aircraft flying whose flight manual wasn't written in blood." Every airplane will have glitches, and these cannot be discovered until you fly them, and sometimes fly in combat conditions.

This did not seem to bother these pros in the least.

12 posted on 10/07/2007 7:41:44 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Too much word and definition/designation parsing going on with both sides of this controversy......

zero chance of autorotation is scary.....


13 posted on 10/07/2007 7:42:54 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: LS

The Flight Manual of the CH-46 was written in more blood then any of the MV-22 critics will ever admit to.

At one time it was easily the deadliest helicopter ever in the Marine Corps inventory, and it may still hold that dubious honor.


14 posted on 10/07/2007 7:49:09 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; ntnychik; Travis McGee; Joe Boucher


15 posted on 10/07/2007 8:09:47 AM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Aircraft with wings don't usually need to autorotate. The C-2 Greyhounds I flew for the Navy couldn't autorotate either, it didn't seem to bother us much. We would have liked a forward shooting weapon though. I suspect most of the pilots flying the V-22 wouldn't mind having one either.

I learned long ago that whatever the MSM says either about Airlines or Military flying is going to be pretty wide of the mark. I don't believe anything else they say either.

16 posted on 10/07/2007 8:10:20 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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“The C-2 Greyhounds I flew for the Navy couldn’t autorotate either”

so what?

they weren’t airborne at walk speed....and they have 700 sq ft of wing to glide on....


17 posted on 10/07/2007 8:23:20 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Travis McGee; Joe Boucher; gonzo; Grampa Dave
I invite Time-Jazeera reporter Thompson, Jabba al-Murtha,
and the rest of the Fifth-Column Quislings to autorotate.


18 posted on 10/07/2007 8:32:00 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
"Too much word and definition/designation parsing going on.."

Exactly what one would expect from a Bell rep. He earns his living with them, not gonna be eager to say anything detrimental to Bell.

However, buying oranges from him might be a high-risk venture; you may end up with a passel of apples.

19 posted on 10/07/2007 8:51:27 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost

I think this is a cool airplane......but looking at it in the context of a hot LZ.....?......uh-uh......


20 posted on 10/07/2007 9:16:09 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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