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To: edsheppa
You have neatly illustrated why communication between us is fruitless. You know The Truth, that morality must be grounded on "real moral incumbency" (whatever that is), and therefore any explanation that doesn't include that is no explanation at all.

Yep. However, I have through communication with you illicited your implicit denial of moral incumbency, proving that you don't believe that there really are right rules of conduct, which means that whatever you are describing, it is something other than morality because the notion of rules of right conduct without obligation or duty is oxymoronic.

Cordially,

157 posted on 10/10/2007 10:31:11 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond
illicited elicited
158 posted on 10/10/2007 10:58:38 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond
I have through communication with you [elicited] your implicit denial of moral incumbency

No, you elicited my explicit denial that we can know (now) there is such a thing. Since I asked for, but you never provided, an explicit test by which we can know it, I assume you must agree with me. Perhaps that was unfair of me because I know (and oviously this was my point) your opinion isn't based on a predictive theory, so you can't provide such a test.

whatever you are describing, it is something other than morality

No, it's something other than what you think morality must be.

An analogy occurred to me later. Your attitude is like someone who asks you "what is the force that pushes me right when the car turns left?" and then, after you give the account involving a change in reference frame, complains that you've not explained Real Centrifugal Force, but rather explained it away.

162 posted on 10/10/2007 1:48:52 PM PDT by edsheppa
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