[Diamond]

...one’s own assumed personal autonomy...

I stand chastened. You got me. Immediately when I read that phrase of Voegelin's I realized that I had forgotten my Cornelius Van Til!:^)

I think the atheist believes that there is no human freedom unless a man can get “free” of God. Now a person like me, a believer in God, believes there is neither freedom nor reason — or sanity — without God. So you see, there is no way that a common ground can exist between the atheist and the theist such that any agreement could ever be reached, and not just on the question of God, but probably on any question at all.

I was going to post something by Van Til but Dr. Eckleburg beat me to it:^)

Thanks for a great, great post, betty boop.

Cordially,

[betty boop]

Thank you so much for your kind words Diamond! I’m just glad to be able to get this stuff “off my chest” on a thread that deals with Richard Dawkins.... :^) It just seems so fitting.