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To: ElkGroveDan

No, I didn’t miss the point because you’re comparing apples to a steak sandwich. This isn’t about Rush Limbaugh, this is about John Doolittle. The point here, for the umpteenth time, is that it is no longer an issue of guilt or innocence, as he could be cleared of any wrongdoing and it still wouldn’t matter (and what if by chance, he is guilty of some of the charges ? Even good people go bad while in power and get corrupted. Look at Duke Cunningham).

You know the double-standards for rodents and the GOP. I’m giving you my expert opinion, borne of being chin deep in politics since I was a kid (well over a quarter-century) and studying it every single day to almost the exclusion of all else (after all, how many other people you know can sit there and discuss practically any state or local district off the top of their head when you’re talking about hundreds and hundreds of individual seats and districts ?). That expert opinion is that we will lose this seat if he is renominated. I know you don’t want to hear it, and I don’t like to have to give the pronouncement (who the hell likes delivering bad news like that when it’s about your own side ?). I’m not going to lie to your face and claim otherwise, because I think all of you are worthy not to be given a snowjob. I’m hoping you don’t want me to lie to you and give you false hope.

The good news is that we can still save this seat. But the defenders will have to decide whether to tell their hero he needs to stand aside for the good of the party, or whether he wants to allow the bad guys to win. That’s what we’re facing. Those are the dynamics. You and I and all the defenders in the thread alone won’t change it, no matter how much yelling and screaming and saying how unfair it is, because it is how it is.


51 posted on 10/06/2007 12:46:26 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj; SierraWasp; calcowgirl
I’m giving you my expert opinion, borne of being chin deep in politics since I was a kid (well over a quarter-century) and studying it every single day to almost the exclusion of all else

Oh well then you sure are the smart one. You study politics every day. I can't hold a feather to you. Wow! Chin deep and all that. I'm just going to go back to digging ditches and leave the political hangings to "experts" like you.

52 posted on 10/06/2007 12:55:04 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
But the defenders will have to decide whether to tell their hero he needs to stand aside for the good of the party, or whether he wants to allow the bad guys to win.

Yeah... no one should defend an innocent man if it stands in the way of the Party. /sarcasm

Listen to yourself! That kind of thinking makes us no better than RATS!

If we don't stand for principles, we stand for NOTHING!

In fact, if this is the way the "Party" wants to operate, they are going to lose me post haste!

72 posted on 10/07/2007 11:27:32 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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