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To: gjones77

“You really need to look at the big picture and stop thinking like an engineer for a few minutes here.”

You need to stop throwing phony credentials around and pretending you see a non-existent “big picture”.

You do NOT use a silver bullet, which EW tactics are, especially these days, unless you want a target gone.

The picture is that the Israeli’s were worried about the facility and the contents of the facility. They used what they had to use to eliminate it.

It’s really not that hard to see - there is no larger forest here. If you truly understood military training and tactics you’d know you do not use specialized, high-value, highly secret capabilities as a PsyOps exercise.

You use them when you need to have them.

The psychological impact on Syria and Iran was simply a collateral benefit. Unfortunately, next time the Syrians and Iranians will be that much more prepared for any EW activity headed their way.

That the Israeli’s thought this target was of such high value and importance is the main story here, even my simple, single-minded engineer brain gets that.


225 posted on 10/06/2007 9:16:33 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
You do NOT use a silver bullet, which EW tactics are, especially these days, unless you want a target gone.

And you especially do not use those tactics without also seriously destroying or affecting their first strike capability. This is even more important when dealing with suicidal Islamists. All you will accomplish when you poke an Islamic Hornets Nest, is that it will release all the hornets. We saw that in Iraq (insurgency). All these suicidal nutjobs want is a plausible excuse to abuse the virgins in paradise.

229 posted on 10/07/2007 9:08:58 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: RFEngineer

My friend, don’t start throwing bombs if you can’t take the fall back.

Now, as for my credentials, I don’t feel I need to prove that to you, but the military paperwork and training I have says they’re far from phony.

And I’m the guy that puts RF engineers like yourself, as well as all other forms of engineers into every major, and most minor, defense companies working on all the fun things the military gets to use, I had people working on the Raptor and the JSF to name a few, so I actually do get a pretty clear picture of the technology while talking to them and from the company requirements.

Now, as for giving away technology and showing their hand, they did neither, if a guy you’re about to fight bends a steel bar in his hands that tips you off to his capabilities, knowing that doesn’t help you if you’re in a position unable to stop it.

The technology employed by the Israelis in this attack to blind the Syrian defense systems is by no means useless now that the Syrians know they have it since there’s little they can do about it, hell, they bought the system from the Russians which means they don’t have the technological capability to create a countermeasure, hell, they couldn’t even make the base system itself.

And since their sensors were useless, I highly doubt that they were able to glean any useful information that they could use to try and counter the Israeli systems.

Now, from the psyops perspective, I said intended or unintended, meaning that no matter what it had a greater benefit than just taking out a target.

So, I stand by my words that you’re making a big deal out of nothing, and before you start trying to doubt a persons credentials, please make sure you know who you’re speaking to.


230 posted on 10/08/2007 5:30:55 AM PDT by gjones77
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