IS IT IMMORAL TO OPPOSE ORRIN HATCH? (Lonsberry)

boblonsberry.com ^ | 10/04/07 | Bob Lonsberry

[shortstop]

A democracy can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.

[nmh]

Too bad Orin Hatch looks the other way on polygamy in Utah ... and wants to promote socialism which is unBiblical. Too bad for Orin Hatch that some people are KNOWLEDGEABLE and understand that extended SOCIALISM to the middle class will have devastating effects on our country. It’s too bad Orin Hatch is so STUPID and pandering to voters who are also IGNORANT and STUPID.

[elizabetty]

Is it the moral thing to do to attack someone’s morals because you do not agree with them about an expenditure?

[nmh]

“A democracy can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.”

YES!

I forget who stated that ... one of the founding fathers ... .

Orin Hatch is one confused man.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Welfare and lack of morals go hand in hand!

[stuartcr]

Morality is relative to the person’s beliefs.

[sickoflibs]

Hatch recommended Ginsburg to Clinton and got her passed by Republicans. So democrats were able to claim that they should pick GWBs supreme court picks, and she was a wacko thinking she was the constitution.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average of the world’s great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years.
These nations have progressed in this sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
from faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to Complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependency;
from dependency back again to bondage.

Alexander Fraser Tyler, Cycle of Democracy (1770)

[Loud Mime]

There's a good discussion on the Founder's Quote thread.

Let me know if you'd like to be on its ping list.

[nmh]

Alexander Fraser Tyler, Cycle of Democracy (1770)

Thank you!

It appears to me we routinely VIOLATE the list.

We are in a decline ... .

[nmh]

Thank you!

Yes, please add me to your ping list.

[joebuck]

Desiring to take property/money from one to give to another is always coveting.

[nmh]

Yes ... as people strive to erase the Judeo Christian God and replace Him with the god of global warming and other man made gods ... aids the decline so they have no moral absolutes - so anything goes!

[nmh]

Yes ... as people strive to erase the Judeo Christian God and replace Him with the god of global warming and other man made gods ... aids the decline so they have no moral absolutes - so anything goes!

[Vigilanteman]

On the issue of morals, in the context of Mormon beliefs, who trumps – Orrin Hatch or Ezra Taft Benson?

FWIW, Ezra Taft Benson was the only member of the scandal-ridden Eisenhower Administration to serve the full eight years and with his reputation enhanced, not diminished. Therefore, I would have to go with Benson, even as an outsider.

Orin Hatch has done some good things in the past, but I'm afraid his long association with Ted Kennedy and cohorts has softened his brain. Like Lindsey Graham, he needs a primary opponent. Both their states deserve far better representation.

[Cyber Liberty]

I believe the author's point was that Booby Hatch himself started this "morality" argument by claiming that taking money from some and giving it to others in order to securte their votes is "moral".

Nice shot at the author, though. If you can't defeat his ideas, defeat him.

[Logophile]

Orin Hatch has done some good things in the past, but I'm afraid his long association with Ted Kennedy and cohorts has softened his brain.

The (very un-PC) term that comes to mind is "going native." Conservative politicians who spend too much time in Washington tend to adopt the attitudes and morals (such as they are) of that city.

[stuartcr]

As I said, relative to one’s beliefs. Not everyone is Christian.

[Enduring Freedom]

RINOs like Hatch are the Vichy Regime of Congress.

Weasels, traitors, shills willfully collaborating with the Socialist Left.

RINOs are a cancer on the Body GOPolitic.