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To: Popocatapetl

“Mexicans in the US are either good or bad”

Once again, the word illegal escapes you. You cannot be an illegal immigrant and not break additional laws, like identity theft, and credit identity theft.


40 posted on 10/04/2007 4:32:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

As I said before, the use of a fake ID has only been federally illegal for a short time, and the law is not retroactive.

Before just a few years ago, possession had to be accompanied by criminal fraud to be a crime, or else thousands of children who tried to use fake IDs to buy cigarettes and alcohol are also “criminals”.

It is also not cumulative. That is, if you used a fake ID to obtain a real ID, the real ID is valid, so you no longer need the fake ID. This means that if you had a fake SSN to obtain a real ID card, then used that real ID card to obtain a real SSN, the real SSN is valid.

Over time, you achieve de facto citizenship as much as a real citizen does. And only in recent years has the government started to demand that all children be issued SSNs. Before that time, there was *no* “identity paper” that all citizens had to have.

These are all enormous, gaping loopholes in the law that have created millions of US citizens who were not citizens before.

And just because you might think they are still illegal does not make them so, any more than if you think they are criminals. It is the law that decides, not public opinion.

Only the most recent arrivals fit into what you have described, as being able to not function unless they break the new laws. The millions here already, who are still not citizens, are to a great extent “grandfathered”, so that they may live here, work here, even get loans here, while still not be citizens.


41 posted on 10/04/2007 5:55:44 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I humbly suggest that you not attempt to debate race-baiters, just call them out once they reveal themselves. I doubt you would waste your time arguing with racists and they are just the other side of the same coin.

He's already proven he is not interested in a mature, rational discussion as there are thousands of post discussing all aspects of this topic which he has dismissed as "I hate Mexicans."

JimRob can run his site as he likes, but if it was mine, the race-baiters would be Zotted as fervently as the racists.

43 posted on 10/04/2007 7:31:08 PM PDT by HundredDollars
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