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Excerpted because of links and no printer friendly version. The nine specific groups of persons who are included in the database appear to be those in § 922. Unlawful acts, part (d).

I'm not comfortable with it. I'm not a lawyer. I haven't read all of § 922. H.R. 2640 strikes me as half a loaf. IMHO, lock them up, or let them be free.

1 posted on 10/03/2007 5:04:41 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The concept of keeping guns out of the hands of mentally disturbed individuals is a good one.

In the good ole days, we did not have that problem because we’d just put the individuals in straight jackets.


2 posted on 10/03/2007 5:07:52 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: neverdem

The concept of keeping guns out of the hands of mentally disturbed individuals is a good one.

In the good ole days, we did not have that problem because we’d just put the individuals in straight jackets.


3 posted on 10/03/2007 5:07:53 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: neverdem

Larry Pratt of G.O.A. is really going overboard on this one, and he is not making a good impression of himself IMO.

The law has been on the books since 1968. There is a program on the books, since the Clinton administration, to remove the firearms bar for persons deemed well after they have been adjudicated mentally defective, and also for vets to clear their records. Needless to say, a certain political party ensured that the program never got funded. N.R.A. says the law will correct this issue and I believe them.

Right now, The History Channel is showing “Gangster Guns,” with an interviewee who puts a very nice take on the old pocket pistol: “You didn’t mess with a man’s lady, you didn’t kick his dog, you didn’t go after his kids, because you didn’t know who had one.”

An armed society is a polite society. :)


5 posted on 10/03/2007 5:20:24 PM PDT by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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To: neverdem
I'm not comfortable with it.

Just a reminder: The NRA is the country's oldest gun control advocacy organization:

http://www.duke.edu/~mms16/Singeron_NRA_w_Chart.pdf.

The NRA gradually began to play an active role in efforts by the federal government to regulate firearms.

In the 1930s Congress passed three main gun control acts. The Uniform Firearms Act of 1930 forbade the delivery of pistols to "convicts, drug addicts, habitual drunkards, incompetents, and minors under the age of 18."

Karl T. Frederick, then president of the NRA, served as a special consultant in the framing of this act.

The NRA also supported the National Firearms Act of 1934, which taxed and required registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles, and sawed-off shotguns, although some controversy existed surrounding Congress's definition of a machine gun.

Finally, the NRA supported the Federal Firearms Act of 1938, which imposed regulations on interstate and foreign commerce in firearms and pistol ammunition and restricted the use of sawed-off shotguns and machine guns.

Congressional hearings over the National Firearms Act of 1934 (H.R.9066) took place April 16 & 18 and May 14, 15, & 16 of 1934.

Then-NRA President Karl T. Frederick testified on behalf of the National Rifle Association (NRA). His testimony is below and includes the text in full plus scanned images of each page.

MR. FREDERICK: ... "I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I seldom carry one. ... I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses"

Link:

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/NRA/NFA.asp

And, of course, testimony from someone who has felt the full force and fury of gun control:

May you stand before God and man as my two precious grandchildren's killer if you pass any more gun legislation that will make me a felon should I own a handgun or any other gun for that matter.

Sincerely,

Mary Carpenter

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Amend/deaths_in_merced.htm

http://www.grnc.org/mary_carpenter_letter.htm

Best regards,

6 posted on 10/03/2007 5:56:59 PM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: neverdem
But, there is a huge campaign of misinformation and scare tactics being forwarded by a small gun owners group who view themselves to be in competition with the National Rifle Association (NRA).

They left out trash from world net whatever.

13 posted on 10/03/2007 7:00:19 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: neverdem
I am very uncomfortable with it, what is the definition of mentally unstable, or whatever the buzzword of the day is? Who defines what defines "unfit to purchase a gun?

As for nutcases like the one that shot up VT, the solution is simple, dial .357.

14 posted on 10/03/2007 7:04:09 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: neverdem
The replies found at the discussion board, at the site linked to this article, uniformly disagree with Larry Scott, and the NRA.

Their reasons for doing so seem well-founded to me.

Just thought I'd make a mention of that, as much for the sake of any others whom might later lurk thru here...

The NRA could be "wrong". Though I've not delved deeply into this one, for now, I'm *with* those veterans at Military.com.


15 posted on 10/03/2007 9:50:46 PM PDT by BlueDragon (a handgun is best used for fighting one's way to a RIFLE)
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The Values Test By JAMES C. DOBSON

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18 posted on 10/03/2007 11:44:03 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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Thanks neverdem.


21 posted on 10/04/2007 9:23:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: neverdem
Perhaps it's not anti-veteran, but it's certainly anti-civilian. Especially when government gets to decide who's "mentally deficient" to the point that they shouldn't be allowed to carry a firearm.

To a liberal, being conservative is sufficient cause to prevent one from owning a firearm.

29 posted on 10/05/2007 11:06:22 AM PDT by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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