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Gun Bill Not Anti-Veteran (H.R. 2640)
military.com ^ | October 02, 2007 | Larry Scott

Posted on 10/03/2007 5:04:35 PM PDT by neverdem

There is no such thing as the “Veterans Disarmament Act.” There is no pending legislation that would take firearms away from veterans. There is no pending legislation that would prevent a person with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), veteran or not, from purchasing a firearm or ammo.

But, there is a huge campaign of misinformation and scare tactics being forwarded by a small gun owners group who view themselves to be in competition with the National Rifle Association (NRA).

Let’s use some common sense instead of nonsense. If veterans were to lose the right to own firearms, you’d have a lot of unemployed cops. If those who have PTSD were to lose that right, there’d be even more unemployed cops and other first responders, as well. The arguments about a “Veterans Disarmament Act” are, quite simply, ridiculous and illogical.

The piece of legislation is question is H.R. 2640, the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007. H.R. 2640 was carefully-crafted by the NRA and Members of Congress to protect the rights of gun owners, especially those who may have mental health issues such as PTSD.

Alert: Tell your public officials how you feel about this legislation.

The NICS is the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, the database that contains the names of those not allowed to buy firearms and ammo. There are nine specific groups of persons who are included in the database.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2ndamendment; banglist; goa; hr2640; mentalillness; nra; ptsd; rkba; veterans
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To: neverdem; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks neverdem.


21 posted on 10/04/2007 9:23:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mvpel

Poor example. New Jersey sucks (I’m from there), as do a few other states who abuse the second amendment rights of the people who live in them. A few states will fight to the end against the rights of their people, New Jersey being one of them. If the federal government passed a law mandating the correction of the records, because forbidding a person to purchase a certain object is regulation of interstate commerce, New Jersey and its ilk would suddenly find limtitations to the commerce clause, and probably support states’ rights.

Whatever is done, a few blue states will oppose it and many may refuse to comply. I’d rather get my foot in the door than wait until it is open all the way. Incrementalism works in our favor, too.


22 posted on 10/04/2007 1:46:17 PM PDT by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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To: Copernicus
Thanks for the info on the issue. Naturally being a former combat vet diagnosed with PTSD with an unusally strong belief in gun ownership I have particular interest in the proffered bill and know how the anti-gun idiots in our government will exploit any little weakness in the pending legislation.

Oh, and I'm no real fan of the self-serving and double dealing NRA.

23 posted on 10/04/2007 3:28:37 PM PDT by Ron H. (The present two-party system has become irrelevant as well as passe! Vote Conservative!)
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To: Ron H.
Naturally being a former combat vet

Thank you for your service to our country.

Best regards,

24 posted on 10/04/2007 7:48:44 PM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
Is Mr. Frederick still President of the NRA? If he was, you might have a point. Since he’s probably been dead for 50 years, you don’t. If you want to waste your money of impotent fringe groups like GOA, that’s your privilege, but stop bashing the NRA and playing into the hands of the anti-gun lobby.
25 posted on 10/04/2007 8:09:45 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Copernicus
Thank you for your service to our country.

Thank you.

26 posted on 10/04/2007 8:22:14 PM PDT by Ron H. (The present two-party system has become irrelevant as well as passe! Vote Conservative!)
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To: ozzymandus
Is Mr. Frederick still President of the NRA? If he was, you might have a point. Since he’s probably been dead for 50 years, you don’t

Good point. The 2nd Amendment, like the Constitution, is a living,evolving,breathing document.

All the dead men who wrote and implemented it, Jefferson, Franklin, Madison,Washington, et. al. are not relevant to the needs and beliefs of the current generation.

Mr. Frederick's heirs and assigns are completely in charge of the current NRA, just as they have been for the past half century.

You bet I am proud to join groups like the JFPO who aggressively defend the Constitution.

Best regards,

27 posted on 10/05/2007 4:33:21 AM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
Well, I wouldn’t put Frederick in the same category as the founding fathers, but if you choose to, that’s your privilege, just like sending money to fringe groups who don’t accomplish anything but fund raising. At least you’re not sending your disposable income to sara brady.

The NRA was a target-shooting group until the first gun controls became onerous in the 60’s, and they have led the fight for the 2nd Amendment since then.

28 posted on 10/05/2007 11:03:01 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: neverdem
Perhaps it's not anti-veteran, but it's certainly anti-civilian. Especially when government gets to decide who's "mentally deficient" to the point that they shouldn't be allowed to carry a firearm.

To a liberal, being conservative is sufficient cause to prevent one from owning a firearm.

29 posted on 10/05/2007 11:06:22 AM PDT by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: ozzymandus
Well, I wouldn’t put Frederick in the same category as the founding fathers,

Sadly, he is in his own anonymous way at least as important because of the work he did to undo the Founding Fathers Achievements.

A few words from him at a crucial unremarked moment in history could have effectively quashed the entire 20th Century Gun Control Movement.

Instead, he chose to give aid and comfort to the enemies of the Constitution.

He richly deserves his special place in Hades.

Best regards,

30 posted on 10/05/2007 6:53:46 PM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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