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Thompson backs ethanol subsidies
AP ^ | October 3, 2007 | MIKE GLOVER

Posted on 10/03/2007 1:31:04 PM PDT by Plutarch

NEVADA, Iowa - Republican presidential hopeful Fred Thompson acknowledged Wednesday that he's reversed his position on ethanol subsidies, saying his new stand is based on changes in energy prices and security issues.

Thompson spoke about the issue after touring an ethanol plant, one of dozens in Iowa, which leads the nation in ethanol production. The actor and former Tennessee senator was finishing a five-day trip to the state, where precinct caucuses begin the presidential nominating process.

Meeting with reporters, Thompson acknowledged that he had switched his position on subsidies for ethanol.

"I have voted against subsidies in the Senate," said Thompson. "But I think it's a matter now of national security and we've got to avail ourselves of a lot of different resources, and I think renewable has to be a part of that picture."

Carrie Giddins, communications director for the Iowa Democratic Party, was quick to point out that Thompson opposed such subsidies as a senator....


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; elections; energy; ethanol; fred; fredthompson; subsidies; thompson
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To: Abcdefg

Who told you there was a free-market in the energy sector...?


21 posted on 10/03/2007 2:07:45 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: calcowgirl

Nucluer power and transportation fuels are at opposite ends of the energy market...for the better part. Unless one tries to correlate electrical vehicles in that equation.


22 posted on 10/03/2007 2:09:13 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Plutarch
Bad position Freddie!

With all fields filled with corn crops all food prices go up. Chicken, eggs, etc.

This proves that CFR member Thompson's successful candidacy would only delay the final demise of our country into third world status.

23 posted on 10/03/2007 2:10:18 PM PDT by fweingart (Tom Tancredo Will Get The Job Done! (How is Mumia Abu-Jamal these days?))
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To: Shermy
the “hydrogen economy” guy, with real plans to get replace oil

Do you understand that hydrogen is not an energy source, but only a energy storage medium? To produce hydrogen for fuel, it requires using some other energy source first.

24 posted on 10/03/2007 2:12:09 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: napscoordinator

Is it your opinion that you never ever change positions? That you remain the same, even in the face of new information?

Now I’m not saying I know the full context of what he’s saying, but the energy sector is a sticky area...not to be rigid upon.


25 posted on 10/03/2007 2:12:54 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: thackney

Do you understand to produce gasoline for fuel, it requires using other energy first?


26 posted on 10/03/2007 2:14:06 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: fweingart
..and Tancredo who has been a guest expert/adviser for the CFR on issues and who also voted to continue energy subsidies would be different how? (Energy Policy Act of 2004; Bill HR 4503 ; vote number 2004-241 on Jun 15, 2004 & Bill sponsored by Tauzin, R-LA; Bill HR.6 ; vote number 2003-630 on Nov 18, 2003)
27 posted on 10/03/2007 2:16:41 PM PDT by mnehring (CFR, Masons, NeoCons, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield- BOO! (Halloween Costume Tagline))
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To: Plutarch

No he backs wasting taxpayer money to get a few more votes.


28 posted on 10/03/2007 2:17:13 PM PDT by Iwentsouth
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To: Shermy
Do you understand to produce gasoline for fuel, it requires using other energy first?

To produce gasoline, it requires consuming about 6~10% of the energy contained in the fuel. To produce hydrogen it takes 120~150% of the energy contained in the fuel. A very significant difference.

29 posted on 10/03/2007 2:17:34 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RockinRight

“However, just to be safe I’d like to hear the entire context.”

Don’t expect that from some of the Rats on board...willing eat anything.


30 posted on 10/03/2007 2:22:53 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: mnehrling

haha...shows you how silly people get.


31 posted on 10/03/2007 2:24:22 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Rick_Michael
Knee jerk seems to be the name of the game far too often. How many times have people here gotten all up in arms over an article saying XX candidate said or supported something and it came to find out they didn’t?
32 posted on 10/03/2007 2:25:06 PM PDT by mnehring (CFR, Masons, NeoCons, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield- BOO! (Halloween Costume Tagline))
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To: Plutarch

We should be looking to safe nuclear energy and the increased use of electricity.

Pebble bed reactors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor


33 posted on 10/03/2007 2:25:48 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: Plutarch

Hey, I’ve changed my mind. I found out Les Paul’s raised 5 billion bucks to be President in another thread....


34 posted on 10/03/2007 2:26:03 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: Shermy
Are you really that dense?

Do you understand to produce gasoline for fuel, it requires using other energy first?

35 posted on 10/03/2007 2:27:06 PM PDT by OregonRancher (.)
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To: Rick_Michael
I am beginning to think that half the people out there believe that the CFR is what they read in the old None Dare Call it Conspiracy or Robertson's New World Order.
36 posted on 10/03/2007 2:28:46 PM PDT by mnehring (CFR, Masons, NeoCons, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield- BOO! (Halloween Costume Tagline))
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To: mnehrling

Yes, because they want their candidate to gain points...by hating on others. Isn’t quite the way to win, but that’s what they do. 8/10 times the context is bad or it’s completely wrong.

Although none of the candidates are right on everything...and I believe we can all point things out. Then again, even our vision of perfection is debateable among each other.


37 posted on 10/03/2007 2:33:04 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: thackney
Not to mention the differentials in transport costs and capital equipment.

Say, Hack -- how about a ''dead pool'' on the number of ethanol distilleries that either close their doors or are cancelled during construction? Beginning about next July, I should think. Just one number to guess every month.

(Hmmmm...now where can we get definitive data on closings/abandonments...?)

38 posted on 10/03/2007 2:33:33 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Rick_Michael
Although none of the candidates are right on everything...and I believe we can all point things out. Then again, even our vision of perfection is debateable among each other.

This was something that was found when responding to another thread (Forbes Ratings). Notice that no candidate is a perfect 50, even those who people claim are the 'UberConservatives'

Ron Paul

Fred Thompson

Duncan Hunter

Tom Tancredo

Source: http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/01/election-candidates-politics-oped-cz_gm_1002thompson.html

39 posted on 10/03/2007 2:39:53 PM PDT by mnehring (CFR, Masons, NeoCons, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield- BOO! (Halloween Costume Tagline))
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To: mnehrling

“I am beginning to think that half the people out there believe that the CFR is what they read in the old None Dare Call it Conspiracy or Robertson’s New World Order.”

There’s tons of Ron Paul wackoos out there. I’m not particularly against Ron Paul domestically, but he does tend to have very weird foreign policy views...and his followers tend to have this weird view of the world.

Some other candidates also use the CFR attack, and are quite silly. It’s a glorified debate group...nothing to fuss over.

It’s weird how liberal in thinking people get, when being conservative SHOULD mean you’re prudent in making changes where things work. That should definitely be considered when making choses in personal opinion. That’s one of the reasons I don’t hack away at Duncan, Tom, etc...because while my opinions may differ to some degree, I don’t view them as the enemy. Rudy...yes. Hillary...yes.

Small differences occurred durning our founding, and they worked through. We can work through those differences...now. If we make small problems...big problems...then the Democrats will win against us...like they did with Perot.


40 posted on 10/03/2007 2:40:40 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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