Posted on 10/03/2007 11:31:56 AM PDT by shrinkermd
MANCHESTER, N.H. — Facing a barrage of questions about his appeal to conservative voters, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani claimed Wednesday that religious conservatives will embrace him because at least they know where he stands.
...Giuliani’s claim about his appeal to religious conservatives includes the implicit acknowledgment that he is not one of them. And that points to Giuliani’s dilemma in trying to appeal to the Republican Party’s base without drawing fire for pandering.
Indeed, Giuliani refused to accept the label of “effectively pro-life,” which is how a key supporter, Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas), referred to the former mayor in an interview this week with CBN’s David Brody.
Asked if he embraces that label, Giuliani chuckled and said: “No. I think I’ve explained my position on that about as clearly as I can, about as often as I can. If people want to put labels on it, they can put labels on it.”
Giuliani’s remarks followed threats by several prominent social conservatives to support a third-party candidate if he wins the Republican presidential nomination.
“Maybe people of faith can respect someone who’s honest with them,” Giuliani said as a huge crush of reporters jostled for position with their microphones and tape recorders. “With me, you know what you’re going to get. I mean, I explain to you who I am. I tell you who I am. You can figure out the areas you agree, the areas you disagree. It’s not like five different positions on every issue.”
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Oh, I thought you were one of them. I am glad you cleared that up.
You and everyone else.
So say you, but how sure are you we can get the voters to grasp that? I mean, Hillary's negatives are huge but if the public was getting their information unfiltered she'd have negatives only slightly better than Jeffrey Dahmer.
More to the point, I see some freepers backing this guy as a first choice, acting as if he's the only electable Republican. That's not like letting Bill Clinton take your daughter out on a date because the alternative is Ted Bundy, that's like letting Bill Clinton take your daughter out on a date because the alternatives are Ted Bundy and an Eagle Scout.
Prove it. Show me evidence that Rudy dropped out of the race for reasons other than health, or show me where God's word says I'm supposed to be all nice-nice to people who slander someone as a coward.
Prior post where? Those words do not appear in this thread prior to your post. Where are they?
I don’t see any citations in that post.
I have seen a lot of folks who were quite chipper after even a major surgery, but faced a long road ahead of them. That said, I will accept this evidence and withdraw my objection. I apologize, but I still don’t think we have any business questioning his explanation, because there are plenty of people who get prostate cancer and are soon in no shape to campaign or serve in the Senate.
That was an excerpt from MY post on another thread.
No, I didn’t source it, but feel free to do a news search for the period in question if you don’t believe me.
If you are unable to verify any one of those items, let me know and I will go back and retrieve a full citation just for you.
Well, Rudy was in the public eye during the entire period. Go read the archives of his press conferences, press releases, public appearances--then read the news from that period after his surgery. The cancer, nor the treatment, slowed him down one bit.
That said, I will accept this evidence and withdraw my objection. I apologize, but I still don’t think we have any business questioning his explanation, because there are plenty of people who get prostate cancer and are soon in no shape to campaign or serve in the Senate.
The doctors were quoted in the news with a much different prognosis... saying that he would be at "full speed" for the campaign. You don't think we have any business questioning the record of a Presidential candidate? I strongly disagree!
No, I think medical issues are generally ones own business, and that cancer is serious stuff.
However, I do NOT give him a pass just this last year. Just last November, he could have done his Party, his state and his country a HUGE service by running against and defeating Hillary in the liberal state that knows him best and loves him just this last November.
He could have removed her from the Senate, KEPT CONTROL OF THE SENATE in Republican hands, and seriously damaged her Presidential ambitions (while likely improving his greatly--maybe even with some conservatives). He chose not to. He can spare us his liberal efforts now.
P.S. My bet is that he chose to NOT run this time for three reasons. First, he probably felt he would lose. Second, he felt that her positions weren't all that different than his (to use RUDY'S VERY OWN WORDS from his time as mayor when asked to compare himself to Slick). Finally, he did NOT want his liberal voting record in the Senate to be 'on the record' and 'set in stone'. Again, he can spare us his liberal efforts now.
However, I do NOT give him a pass just this last year. Just last November, he could have done his Party, his state and his country a HUGE service by running against and defeating Hillary in the liberal state that knows him best and loves him just this last November.
He could have removed her from the Senate, KEPT CONTROL OF THE SENATE in Republican hands, and seriously damaged her Presidential ambitions (while likely improving his greatly--maybe even with some conservatives). He chose not to. He can spare us his liberal efforts now.
P.S. My bet is that he chose to NOT run this time for three reasons. First, he probably felt he would lose. Second, he felt that her positions weren't all that different than his (to use RUDY'S VERY OWN WORDS from his time as mayor when asked to compare himself to Slick). Finally, he did NOT want his liberal voting record in the Senate to be 'on the record' and 'set in stone'. Again, he can spare us his liberal efforts now.
However, I do NOT give him a pass just this last year. Just last November, he could have done his Party, his state and his country a HUGE service by running against and defeating Hillary in the liberal state that knows him best and loves him just this last November.
He could have removed her from the Senate, KEPT CONTROL OF THE SENATE in Republican hands, and seriously damaged her Presidential ambitions (while likely improving his greatly--maybe even with some conservatives). He chose not to. He can spare us his liberal efforts now.
P.S. My bet is that he chose to NOT run this time for three reasons. First, he probably felt he would lose. Second, he felt that her positions weren't all that different than his (to use RUDY'S VERY OWN WORDS from his time as mayor when asked to compare himself to Slick). Finally, he did NOT want his liberal voting record in the Senate to be 'on the record' and 'set in stone'. Again, he can spare us his liberal efforts now.
Sorry about the triple post—my computer did not show the transmission being sent.
You are so far removed from my original post that your comment has no meaning. Start from the beginning or continue to make yourself look like an idiot. The first thing you did was misinterpret my original post by 180 degrees. Take it from there.
You’re right. But the Democrats are so bad that, as bad as the Republicans are, I’m going to back virtually anybody they nominate. I don’t know what else to do.
You’re right. But the Democrats are so bad that, as bad as the Republicans are, I’m going to back virtually anybody they nominate. I don’t know what else to do.
Fight like hell to make sure that this bottom-feeder doesn't get the nomination, that's what.
Even those whose doctors say he is in shape to campaign and serve in the Senate?
If he was in no shape to serve, he should have left the office he had. But Rudy loves power above all else, so we really didn't expect that.
Agree with your post 100%. He wants to be President and will never do anything for this party that makes that even the tiniest bit less likely.
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