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To: Colonel Kangaroo; rustbucket
Seems to be obvious that you seem to think that your purposeful distortions and red herrings can slip by as reasoned debate, but I wonder how many here would agree with you.

There were no “hot heads” sent to meet Lincoln to ask for peace. There were no “hot heads” summoned from the Virginia Peace Convention to meet with Lincoln. The only documented “hot heads” that had the power to force war were Northern governors and financiers, Gustavus Fox and Abraham Lincoln.

And your attempt to paint Lincoln as a Constitutional fundamentalist is put to the lie by Lincoln’s own, personal and documented words, (July 4th, 1861):

“I felt that measures, otherwise unconstitutional....whether strictly legal or not, were ventured upon under what appeared to be a popular demand and public necessity....”

His unconstitutional actions, though unchallenged and rationalized by him as being for the public good and appeals to God, remained what they were-violations of the Constitution.

Your commentary on any of that is irrelevant. Keep the opinion to yourself.

215 posted on 10/10/2007 9:02:26 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge
There were no “hot heads” sent to meet Lincoln to ask for peace. There were no “hot heads” summoned from the Virginia Peace Convention to meet with Lincoln. The only documented “hot heads” that had the power to force war were Northern governors and financiers, Gustavus Fox and Abraham Lincoln.

The "peace commissioners" were shakedown racketeers who operated at the point of a gun. When Tennessee rejected secession in February of 1861, Nashville's rebel rag lamented the fact that Tennessee was passing up the opportunity to join in the peace squeeze on the Yankee.

And your attempt to paint Lincoln as a Constitutional fundamentalist is put to the lie by Lincoln’s own, personal and documented words, (July 4th, 1861):

“I felt that measures, otherwise unconstitutional....whether strictly legal or not, were ventured upon under what appeared to be a popular demand and public necessity....”

His unconstitutional actions, though unchallenged and rationalized by him as being for the public good and appeals to God, remained what they were-violations of the Constitution

Unpatriotic southern Democrats from Jefferson Davis to Jimmy Carter have always wanted to bind Republican presidents while allowing the enemies of freedom to do their dirty work unhindered. And it's understandable why Confederate fans so resent Lincoln's actions so much. They prevented a successful quick power grab by the slaveowning political class.

222 posted on 10/11/2007 11:50:44 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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