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To: shrinkermd

I’m investing in biodiesel. The US produces 10 billion gallons of rendered chicken fat a year which is readily converted to biodeisel almost 1:1. This does not count other rendered fat byproducts. The engine fumes smell like french fries.


24 posted on 10/02/2007 8:52:33 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

September 22, 2007
Rapeseed biofuel ‘produces more greenhouse gas than oil or petrol’

“...Measurements of emissions from the burning of biofuels derived from rapeseed and maize have been found to produce more greenhouse gas emissions than they save.....

Rapeseed and maize biodiesels were calculated to produce up to 70 per cent and 50 per cent more greenhouse gases respectively than fossil fuels....

....Scientists found that the use of biofuels released twice as much as nitrous oxide as previously realised......

....The findings illustrated the importance, the researchers said, of ensuring that measures designed to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions are assessed thoroughly before being hailed as a solution......

.....The research is published in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, where it has been placed for open review. The research team was formed of scientists from Britain, the US and Germany, and included Professor Paul Crutzen, who won a Nobel Prize for his work on ozone.

Dr Franz Conen, of the University of Basel in Switzerland, described the study as an “astounding insight”....

...Dr Dave Reay, of the University of Edinburgh, used the findings to calculate that with the US Senate aiming to increase maize ethanol production sevenfold by 2022, greenhouse gas emissions from transport will rise by 6 per cent...”

Timesonline.co.uk
http://tinyurl.com/2gecg2

Looks like it is possible small investors will ‘have to be taken to the cleaners’ to save planet from pollution in a manner of speaking.

Also, the more capital the West invests and loses in non-competitive alt-fuels the better the chance ME oil interests will eventually accumulate even more capital to ‘control’ world finances as the West runs out of capital. I hope my logic is wrong!


50 posted on 10/02/2007 9:51:24 AM PDT by all_mighty_dollar
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To: pabianice
I’m investing in biodiesel. The US produces 10 billion gallons of rendered chicken fat a year which is readily converted to biodeisel almost 1:1. This does not count other rendered fat byproducts. The engine fumes smell like french fries.

Rendered fats have some promise - and there's the added benefit that getting it out of the animal feed chain gets rid of a source of controversy and possible risk.

There was a really interesting piece a few weeks back about a university team with a plan to convert chicken waste into pyrodiesel -- and know, i'm not sure what that is. But the kicker is that it also produces enough methane to fuel the conversion, making it completely self-contained and self-sufficient, and they can fit the plant on a truck, so it can go from farm to farm and not have to transport the doo.

I also saw a story about a cattle rancher who had his own small-scale ethanol plant -- the stalks and leaves went back into the feed, and when they came out of the other end of the cow, he burned the cow flops to fuel the distillation, again making it self-sufficient.

If either of those two approaches takes off, it could have a ripple effect, since both chicken and cow manure are common fertilizers, and a shortage of either could have unforeseen consequences. Now, if they just figured out a way to get energy from pig poo, that woiuld be a breakthrough -- it tends to build up in nasty and even hazardous amounts on big farms.

86 posted on 10/02/2007 5:26:15 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: pabianice
I’m investing in biodiesel. The US produces 10 billion gallons of rendered chicken fat a year which is readily converted to biodeisel almost 1:1. This does not count other rendered fat byproducts. The engine fumes smell like french fries.

Rendered fats have some promise - and there's the added benefit that getting it out of the animal feed chain gets rid of a source of controversy and possible risk.

There was a really interesting piece a few weeks back about a university team with a plan to convert chicken waste into pyrodiesel -- and know, i'm not sure what that is. But the kicker is that it also produces enough methane to fuel the conversion, making it completely self-contained and self-sufficient, and they can fit the plant on a truck, so it can go from farm to farm and not have to transport the doo.

I also saw a story about a cattle rancher who had his own small-scale ethanol plant -- the stalks and leaves went back into the feed, and when they came out of the other end of the cow, he burned the cow flops to fuel the distillation, again making it self-sufficient.

If either of those two approaches takes off, it could have a ripple effect, since both chicken and cow manure are common fertilizers, and a shortage of either could have unforeseen consequences. Now, if they just figured out a way to get energy from pig poo, that woiuld be a breakthrough -- it tends to build up in nasty and even hazardous amounts on big farms.

87 posted on 10/02/2007 5:26:36 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: pabianice
I’m investing in biodiesel. The US produces 10 billion gallons of rendered chicken fat a year which is readily converted to biodeisel almost 1:1. This does not count other rendered fat byproducts. The engine fumes smell like french fries.

Rendered fats have some promise - and there's the added benefit that getting it out of the animal feed chain gets rid of a source of controversy and possible risk.

There was a really interesting piece a few weeks back about a university team with a plan to convert chicken waste into pyrodiesel -- and know, i'm not sure what that is. But the kicker is that it also produces enough methane to fuel the conversion, making it completely self-contained and self-sufficient, and they can fit the plant on a truck, so it can go from farm to farm and not have to transport the doo.

I also saw a story about a cattle rancher who had his own small-scale ethanol plant -- the stalks and leaves went back into the feed, and when they came out of the other end of the cow, he burned the cow flops to fuel the distillation, again making it self-sufficient.

If either of those two approaches takes off, it could have a ripple effect, since both chicken and cow manure are common fertilizers, and a shortage of either could have unforeseen consequences. Now, if they just figured out a way to get energy from pig poo, that woiuld be a breakthrough -- it tends to build up in nasty and even hazardous amounts on big farms.

88 posted on 10/02/2007 5:26:52 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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