Posted on 10/01/2007 1:21:03 PM PDT by processing please hold
And while you’re processing please hold this!
Then they have no other option left to them but to close their doors. If they are a Catholic hospital in the truest sense of the word, it's all they can do.
There was no need to go that far.
I can sympathize with them on their thinking. That is how I would have approached it. So I would have lost as well.
Obviously their argument was not convincing,
I would love to read their argument.
There was no need to go there. In essence they poisoned their own well.
Sorry to hear that. Now they have no redress? They'll have to fight it on a state level when it presents itself?
Blah, blah, blah.
Shame, shame, shame.
The bureaucracy is just eliminating the competition. If Christian charity goes by the wayside, that’s just more customers for corrupt politicians to “serve” (i.e., fleece the taxpayers).
I'm crushed. You've wounded my inner child.
I image they would have to come up with a few billion. Americans are very generous to charities.
It’s not your inner child I’m concerned about. It’s truth.
Thanks. I only have one nerve left and people just gotta stand on it.
I don't know. I suspect that this was a pre-emptive lawsuit. In other words the Catholic Charities sued to prevent the law from being implemented and then appealed when they lost on the pre-emptive grounds. What the Catholic Charities should do at this point is to violate the law and continue to refuse to provide Birth Control benefits and see if the courts can then enforce this provision. What are the penalties for refusal to conform to this law? Are they administrative or criminal?
The hospitals should simply state flatly that they are not going to provide these benefits and then see what develops. I suspect that rather than allow the Catholic Hospitals to close down and move to New Jersey, the legislature will fix this little problem. Additionally if the government tried to come down on the Churches, then the power of the people might just be made manifest.
The courts have made their ruling. Now let them enforce it.
Amen. Catholic Charities should immediately shut down their charitable services and let the aetheistic state of New York take over their work.
Or if they wanted to be charitable and still serve the poor, they should stop providing “health insurance” to their employees and just pay them what they were paying the insurance companies.
Amen. Catholic Charities should immediately shut down their charitable services and let the aetheistic state of New York take over their work.
Or if they wanted to be charitable and still serve the poor, they should stop providing “health insurance” to their employees and just pay them what they were paying the insurance companies.
Exactly. It's one thing to decline to hear a case. It's another thing to allow a Church to be charged for practicing their beliefs.
Let's see them go there.
What about public tax dollars funding the production of a poster ridiculing the Last Supper?
I wholeheartedly agree with that. Balls to the wall time so to speak. Pardon my french. Time to push the envelope to see exactly what course the courts will take. Will they enforce it or look for a face saving out.
What are the penalties for refusal to conform to this law? Are they administrative or criminal?
Administrative? Dismiss those who refuse to follow the courts order or send a few to jail to get a feel of which way this thing will go. To see if others in the position of being fired or jailed relent and do as they are told. It will be very interesting to see if Catholicism stands it's moral ground or acquiescences.
Additionally if the government tried to come down on the Churches, then the power of the people might just be made manifest.
Agreed.
The courts have made their ruling. Now let them enforce it.
The courts have made their ruling. Now let them enforce it.
Needed to be said again.
Wrong, liberals don't like government staying out of anyone's business.
As someone else said, if churches, as a group, can't use the library (which I also agree with) then neither can any other tax-exempt organization.
Government liberals have taken issues which have been the pervue of the church, the moral issues of poverty and abortion, and made them political. Conversely they have taken political issues, global warming, environmentalism, etc. and made them "moral imperatives".
Many say keep the church out of politics, I say keep politics out of the church.
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Where the heck is that money tree my pop was always talking about? Is the phrase fiscal conservative dead in the halls of our government?
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