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Anti-Jewish, anti-Christian fliers found on cars (Michigan-"Kill Jews and Christians")
Macomb Daily ^ | 9-28-07 | Gordon Wilczynski

Posted on 10/01/2007 8:30:12 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle

Sterling Heights police Detective Sgt. Paul Jesperson said three separate complaints were filed by residents Tuesday who found the fliers on their windshields.

He said the flier said: "Kill Jews and Christians if they don't believe in Allah and Mohammad."

It further advises people to "Fight those who do not believe."

"I really don't know what it means other than suggesting violence to Jews and Christians," Jesperson said. "We certainly have no intentions of stifling someone's religious beliefs but it is most certainly a violation of the law if you're condoning violence with this hate literature."

Jesperson said police received three complaints and the fliers were seen on at least 15 other cars in the parking lot.

He said there was no damage to the cars and no one

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1 posted on 10/01/2007 8:30:17 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: yankeesdoodle
(Michigan-"Kill Jews and Christians")

They couldn't even beat Appalachian State.

2 posted on 10/01/2007 8:32:36 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Alouette

They’re talking about us.
I would love to know what area of Sterling Heights this is.


3 posted on 10/01/2007 8:32:43 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: yankeesdoodle

“No, we don’t believe it’s a hate crime. Why do you ask?”


4 posted on 10/01/2007 8:32:44 AM PDT by TheBigB (I'm back. I'm bad. Get used to it.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Those damned Buddhists! They’ll pay for this!


5 posted on 10/01/2007 8:33:36 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

What is Islam based on?

Mohammed went into “trances” and fits (like epileptic fits) when he was given the “word of God” and would shout out what he was told. These would be written down by his followers. This is the makeup of the Koran.

When Mohammed was just walking and talking and acting like “normal”, his words and deeds were written down by his followers and this went into the Hadith. Now, acting “normal” for Mohammed was taking 12+ wives (including a 6 year old), taking slaves (including sex slaves), executing infidels, conducting raids for treasure, etc.

Now, this is where it gets complicated.

A large part of the words he spoke in trances were “taken back” by Mohammed. He determined them to be the work of the devil (thus they are called the “Satanic Verses” and these are the same verses that Mr. Salman Rushdie got in trouble for writing about).

Now, how Mohammed determined which verses were from God and which were from Satan I do not know.

Also, there were literally dozens of widely different versions of the Koran and Hadith floating around for several hundred years after Mohammed death until a Fatwah was decreed to destroy all but one version. Now, even Mohammed could not remember what he was told by God and forgot it (those are his words as written in the Hadith) so I do not know how the powers in charge decided which was the correct version.

Also according to the Hadith, Mohammed turned people into monkeys, you can determine a child’s sex depending on whether the male or female has an orgasm first (that advice came directly from the Angel Gabriel), dogs and cats are evil and should be killed, that the devil lives in your nose at night (and how to get rid of him in the morning), chess is forbidden, muslims have one intestine while infidels have seven, don’t pray looking up or your eyes will be snatched away, that one wing of a fly is poison but the other is the cure, that drinking camel urine is good for you and I could go on.

And that Mohammed himself didn’t even know if he was going to heaven. If even Mohammed doesn’t know, what chance does the average muslim have?

And for some non-PC info, Mohammed was described as a white man.

Now, if you can bear it, to compare to the Gospels of New Testament.

Jesus was someone who lived a very humble life and was killed for basically saying he was a King and Son of God (blasphemy) by the powers in charge (Roman and Jewish). The government wanted Jesus destroyed and wanted his growing movement destroyed (as it threatened their power). If, after 3 days, the followers of Jesus proclaimed he has risen from the dead, (just as he predicted), and is truly our Savior, the High Officials would have wanted to destroy such a “myth.” They could have easily done this by producing the dead body of Jesus and saying “Your Messiah is still dead and so is your movement” or producing many eye witnesses of the dead Jesus. But they couldn’t.

The letters that make up the New Testament were written by the eye witnesses of the events of Jesus. They were written in just one generation when many other eye witnesses were still alive. They were written without collusion from other Apostles. Even if any of the Apostles wanted to “add” to the “myth” of Jesus, they would have done so in a very disjointed and easily detectable fashion. Yet, the main Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) that describe the life of Jesus are amazingly in harmony with one another and the small differences are consistent with what we would see today if four people witnessed a major event and wrote about the event apart from each other. The Gospels can be traced back to their sources and are basically unchanged from their originals.

The Bible (especially the New Testament) is the most investigated historical document in the history of the world. It has been investigated by scientists, philosophers and archeologists using technology undreamed of when the Bible was written. It is been desperately tried to be “disproved” for over 2000 years, yet, the Bible still stands as the truth.

The stories of Jesus still make sense to us today. It may be because they are true, it may be because they are based in love or it may be because they were written to tell the people of the Word of God.

Regards,

2banana


PS - There are many topics that could be compared - The stories of a adulterous woman is found in both the Bible and Koran. They seem to sum up each religion.

Christianity

But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

“No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.” (John 8:1-11)

Islam

There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Gamid and said: ‘Allah’s Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me.’ He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: ‘Allah’s messenger, why do you turn me away? ... By Allah I have become pregnant.’ He said ‘Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth.’ When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag, and said ‘Here is the child whom I have given birth to.’ He said ‘Go away and suckle him until you wean him.’ When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said ‘Allah’s Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food.’ He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. (Sahih Muslim 4206)

Mohammed

Allah’s Apostle was asked, “What is the best deed?” He replied, “To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, “What is the next in goodness? He replied, “To participate in Jihad in Allah’s Cause.” The questioner again asked, “What is the next (in goodness)?” He replied, “To perform Hajj Mubrur.”

Jesus

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”


6 posted on 10/01/2007 8:34:29 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: yankeesdoodle
"I really don't know what it means other than suggesting violence to Jews and Christians,"

Is this guy brain dead or just your typical democRAT? (I guess I repeated myself there).

7 posted on 10/01/2007 8:37:08 AM PDT by anoldafvet (To liberals, building a wall across the Mexican border is a violation of the Voting Rights Act.)
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To: All

This was at a Kroger by the New Sahara.

New Sahara Restaurant
3625 E 15 Mile Road
Sterling Heights, MI 48310-5356

The New Sahara is run by Chaldeans. Many of the Chaldeans in my area know that they are 1st string targets. They hate the Jews and they hate the Christians but an Iraqi Christian or Arab Christian is right up there on the top of the list.


8 posted on 10/01/2007 8:37:44 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: netmilsmom

There are very few Jews in Macomb County. Well, other than in that huge cemetery over on Gratiot and 13 Mile.


9 posted on 10/01/2007 8:38:23 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: yankeesdoodle
This murderous cult is FUBAR!
10 posted on 10/01/2007 8:38:48 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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11 posted on 10/01/2007 8:39:36 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: Alouette

LOL!

Oh it’s okay, they’ll drive to find you!
This is not too far from 696.

Stay safe, my FRiend!


12 posted on 10/01/2007 8:42:13 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: netmilsmom
They hate the Jews and they hate the Christians

Who is the "they" to whom you refer? Muslims or Chaldeans? It's not clear from your post.

13 posted on 10/01/2007 8:43:29 AM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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To: grellis

MI ping


14 posted on 10/01/2007 8:44:18 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: netmilsmom

I bet there was camera somewhere and that if they really try they can find out who did it.


15 posted on 10/01/2007 8:44:46 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
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If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

16 posted on 10/01/2007 8:49:12 AM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: Alouette
I think there is a small temple in Mount Clemens but I do know of that cemetery on Gratiot. Gosh, I use to live only three miles away from that I and drove past it every time I went to the Macomb Mall.

I remember my mother saying that Michigan was suppose to take in Iraqis this year and Sterling Heights was the area that they were coming into.

Was there any more in the news on that guy with the AK47???

Damn, it’s sad to see what is happening to Michigan.

17 posted on 10/01/2007 8:53:05 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree; tx_eggman

I’m offended. Let’s behead a few of them.


18 posted on 10/01/2007 8:59:03 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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To: Salvey

I had the same problem, but I’d stake my life that she was referring to the Muslims (after all, the word “hate” was involved).


19 posted on 10/01/2007 9:00:16 AM PDT by badbass
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To: yankeesdoodle
For the benefit of any lurking things:

In the USA, we have something called a "second amendment". Because of this , we are able to defend ourselves from inferior, murderous things such as yourself. And we will.

You can gangrape EUropean women as part of your loathsome jihad...You can decapitate little Christian school girls in the far east...You can rape, mutilate , and enslave Christian women and children in the Sudan and other parts of suffering Africa...You can force your garbage "religion", islam ,and mutilation on helpless villagers in the Moluccas and elsewhere...You can commit unspeakable atrocities against helpless Russian schoolchildren ...And you can commit all these atrocities because they are by and large disarmed.

We are not.

In short,while you can and do kill Christians and Jews with impunity in other parts of the world, we here are not defenseless and unarmed.Be forewarned...Stick to the unarmed women and children of the world . Those are the only victims against which cowards like yourself can prevail. As the armed forces of Israel, the USA, and others have shown, you don't do well against those capable of striking back.

20 posted on 10/01/2007 9:08:11 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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