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So ...

either the Military is abandoning these men/women...

or

the pre-screening process, sucks rocks ...

thoughts?

1 posted on 10/01/2007 8:00:01 AM PDT by SubGeniusX
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To: SubGeniusX
There is a lot more to this story...


2 posted on 10/01/2007 8:02:07 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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Wouldn’t be the first time that bureacraps stuck a serviceman in the back if this is true. 22K so far?

Smells like budget considerations to me....


3 posted on 10/01/2007 8:03:21 AM PDT by misterrob (Three down, 16 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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This sounds like enemy propaganda.


4 posted on 10/01/2007 8:04:39 AM PDT by donna (A new study says that Ritalin may stunt growth. Men ARE getting shorter than women!)
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To: SubGeniusX

This is the same stunt that the V.A. used early on with returning vets from Vietnam.
Once again “W”s colors and his true feelings about vets are being exposed.


7 posted on 10/01/2007 8:09:00 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: SubGeniusX

This sounds like some crafty idea a civilian wonk in the Pentagon would come up with to save money. Changing the rules isn’t enough. They should hunt down whoever came up with this policy, tie his arms and legs to four horses...


8 posted on 10/01/2007 8:09:50 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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For the life of me, I keep hearing that Arlo Guthrie monologue at the beginning of “Alice’s Restaurant,” where tried to avoid the draft by telling the recruiter “I want to kill...keelll...”


9 posted on 10/01/2007 8:12:25 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: SubGeniusX
Many soldiers and Marines being discharged on this basis actually suffer from combat-related problems, experts say.

The only experts cited in the story are politicians. This smacks of the old left-wing canard, that military duty creates a lot of crazy people.

For decades, Vietnam veterans were portrayed as homeless drug addicts. Those who I served with were quite unlike the media image. Funny how long after that war, young homeless addicts continued to replenish the supply of bums on the streets. Yet, they hadn't served in the military let alone any war.

One can imagine that some soldiers do fall apart after joining the military. Many schizophrenics appear to function normally in their early adulthood only to cross over to madness thereafter. I've met a few growing up who I did not know would later on go mad. I can't imagine recruiters having the medical qualifications to spot such problems.

15 posted on 10/01/2007 8:28:21 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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I don’t know what to think...SG.

My first reaction, if it’s virulently anti-military than there’s probably something bogus about it.

Now I got to figure out who’s behind this and how have they mis-stated things.

See, so many years of being misled by the libs I’m finally wary of anything like this.


18 posted on 10/01/2007 8:34:16 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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Let’s do some math:

As many as 10 a day means that the number is usually lower, with 10 being the peak. Then we have 22,500 total. That means, at least, 2,250 days that this has been going on. If they process them out 7 days a week, that would mean that the program has been running at full speed for over 6 years. If you figure an average of 8 a day over a 5 day week, That’s 562.5 weeks, or over 10 years.

Wait, based on the math, it has to be a Clinton era program that pre-dates the current war!


19 posted on 10/01/2007 8:38:40 AM PDT by PAR35
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Thousands of U.S. soldiers in Iraq — as many as 10 a day — are being discharged by the military for mental health reasons.

Liberals?

27 posted on 10/01/2007 9:28:35 AM PDT by Go Gordon (The short fortune teller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large.)
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So ...
either the Military is abandoning these men/women...

or

the pre-screening process, sucks rocks ...

thoughts?

It is the second choice. As a nurse in a Military Treatment Facility..I can safely say that many recruiters are out there telling some of these kids - “when you go for the physical - don’t tell them of your psych problems/history....


31 posted on 10/01/2007 10:02:20 AM PDT by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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How about a negotiated deal with those troops?

Perhaps they are problem children and wanna go home very badly, so badly that they’ll trade a general discharge or early discharge with no VA benefits for the chance to go home?


36 posted on 10/01/2007 11:31:21 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agree with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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There’s a pattern of the government trying to weasel out of caring for veterans. It is disgraceful, it is wrong, and it must stop now.

“Support the troops” is not an obligation that ends with a discharge. And while it’s tempting to dismiss the story or claim some bias on the part of the Post-Dispatch, these stories keep piling up.

There was a cover story in US News last year about veterans who lost the use of both arms, but were classified as 49% (something like that; I don’t remember the exact number) disabled. Just below the threshold for a full disability pension.

Our government is treating our veterans shabbily. There is no excuse.


39 posted on 10/01/2007 2:20:23 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: SubGeniusX

There’s a pattern of the government trying to weasel out of caring for veterans. It is disgraceful, it is wrong, and it must stop now.

“Support the troops” is not an obligation that ends with a discharge. And while it’s tempting to dismiss the story or claim some bias on the part of the Post-Dispatch, these stories keep piling up.

There was a cover story in US News last year about veterans who lost the use of both arms, but were classified as 49% (something like that; I don’t remember the exact number) disabled. Just below the threshold for a full disability pension.

Our government is treating our veterans shabbily. There is no excuse.


40 posted on 10/01/2007 2:20:46 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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Or, the authors of this piece are trying to zing it to the military. Who would do such a thing?

How did these so-called experts rule out personality disorder in these patients?

42 posted on 10/01/2007 2:42:12 PM PDT by Rudder
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bump


48 posted on 10/01/2007 7:49:20 PM PDT by Drew68
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