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Some in Fairfax Public Housing Make Six Figures
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ ^ | 9-30-2007 | Amy Gardner

Posted on 09/30/2007 9:39:15 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze

Hundreds of families living in housing subsidized by Fairfax County taxpayers exceed income caps designed to ensure that only the neediest receive assistance, a review of county records shows.

In the most extreme cases, Fairfax is underwriting rents for families making well into six figures: One household getting help makes more than $216,000 a year; another, $184,000. Dozens of others -- making $60,000, $70,000, $90,000 -- exceed eligibility caps. And they do so with the tacit approval of county housing administrators, who do little to encourage occupants to move on when their fortunes improve.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: democrats; greed; hypocrites; liberals; subsidizedhousing; typicalnva
Northern Virginia, a hotbed of democrat support. How nice of them to accept a helping hand from the folks still making less than 40K.

BTW, I saw this on Drudge, but since matt is still omitting his link to FreeRepublic, I thought it more appropriate to post to his source directly.

1 posted on 09/30/2007 9:39:19 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Somewhat baffling? Why would a family making $216,000 live in the toilet called public housing? I’d move as soon as I could no matter how much they subsidized the housing.


2 posted on 09/30/2007 9:44:00 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Northern Virginia, a hotbed of democrat support.

Among the reasons I left, that and the traffic was ughh....

side note I’ve seen m5’s Cadillacs Acuras and all other luxury makes in public housing. 50 inch plasmas and wardrobes fit for a nice place in tysons.

second side note I went to school with the guy who was called maccacca.


3 posted on 09/30/2007 9:46:26 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Drango

“Somewhat baffling? Why would a family making $216,000 live in the toilet called public housing?”

Greed.


4 posted on 09/30/2007 9:47:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Drango
That question is answered in the next paragraph in the linked article...

The fact that higher-income families choose to remain in subsidized housing illustrates the critical lack of affordable housing in Fairfax, named the nation's most affluent county last month by the Census Bureau. The median new-home price in the region's largest jurisdiction is $960,000, and the average monthly rent for a two-bedroom apartment is $1,306, according to county data.

It's cheap ... pocket the savings.

5 posted on 09/30/2007 9:48:35 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Entitlements are a narcotic. Just because you don’t need them doesn’t mean you won’t abuse them. Even FDR forsaw this when AFDC originated in the 1930’s


6 posted on 09/30/2007 9:51:11 PM PDT by Catmom
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Entitlements are a narcotic. Just because you don’t need them doesn’t mean you won’t abuse them. Even FDR forsaw this when AFDC originated in the 1930’s


7 posted on 09/30/2007 9:51:17 PM PDT by Catmom
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Public housing in Fairfax is attractive and not at all a slum.


8 posted on 09/30/2007 9:53:49 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Sgt_Schultze

They may be subletting or some other creative arrangement. Rent control usually leads to someone other than the owner making a good profit.


9 posted on 09/30/2007 10:00:19 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: the Real fifi

I figured as much.


10 posted on 09/30/2007 10:00:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Drango

Some public housing programs provide market rents for “normal” apartments so this could be an apartment in an upscale development.


11 posted on 09/30/2007 10:15:29 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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I think it’s called “mixed income housing”. HUD has a whole section on it.


12 posted on 09/30/2007 10:20:45 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: Sgt_Schultze
There is a public policy purpose in allowing higher-income families to remain. One benefit is that such a mix creates economic diversity.


13 posted on 09/30/2007 10:23:35 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: Drango

“Somewhat baffling? Why would a family making $216,000 live in the
toilet called public housing? “

Not all public housing is a toilet.
I remember seeing a TV news report about some attempt to cut back
on benefits for those in some public housing in NYC, maybe five years ago.
IIRC, one of the major points of contention was the city deciding
to no longer pay for cable for the indigent.

I couldn’t exactly tell where the reporter was coming from, but when
he went into one of the public housing apts to register the weeping
and gnashing of teeth from one of the tenants....
HEY, there’s a good sized plasma on the wall!
HEY, that’s better furniture than I’ve ever owned.
The place looked great.

I’m not going to paint with a broad stroke here...but I suspect that
in some localities, people are earning $$$ “off the books” and getting
free rent and-Gawd-only-knows-what-else on our dime.

The recent revelation about SCHIP (subsidized children health insurance
program) going to families making as much as something like $85,000/yr.
also sounds objectionable as well.


14 posted on 09/30/2007 10:23:53 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Catmom
I heard Gerry Connally (Fairfax Chairman of the Board) added an additional tax 3 years ago to start a new subsidized housing program. So far it has collected 23 MILLION dollars, but only 33 people have been placed.

Show me (where) the money (is)!

15 posted on 10/01/2007 4:02:07 AM PDT by pearlz (Support Our Troops. Support Fisher House.)
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To: Drango
I’d move as soon as I could no matter how much they subsidized the housing.

I guess that would be my choice too, if I had to make such a choice.

Three of the 8a apartment complexes I know of are 1950's and 60's era brick buildings that appear to be in decent shape. The grounds are not "too" trashy, in fact one is pretty darned spiffy from I can see when driving by. As expected, all three places have a high percentage of both illegals and legitimate new immigrants. The legit immigrants tend to move within a year or two once they're on their feet, and this I know from several personal encounters.

The problem is that these 8a complexes are tucked into neighborhoods of highly desirable locations, where a single family house goes for $325K to $1.5M.

In one specific example, there's a condominium complex directly across the street from an 8a complex. They're of very similar age, size, and design (50's/60's, brick, smallish rooms). During the 2000-2005 runup the condos went from $100K (2 br) to now about $300K. The 8a rents saw nothing even remotely like that kind of increase, thought the housing itself, the amenities, the public services, and locations are virtually identical (location, location. location).

Bottom line is that if those 8a units were spiffed up and put on the market right now, they'd sell for $250k to $400K, and they'd sell fast at those prices.

16 posted on 10/01/2007 5:13:44 AM PDT by angkor ("California, Is nice to the homeless, California, Supercool to the homeless..." South Park 11.07)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Some of these people may be living in perfectly nice townhouse developments. Counties often require builders to set aside housing that will be used as section 8. Often it means the builder just doesn’t put a dishwasher or other upmarket features in.


17 posted on 10/01/2007 7:12:39 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Democrat Party in action. Rob from the working class to buy campaign support from fat cat special interests.
18 posted on 10/01/2007 8:17:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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