New Zealand In Flap Over Plans For New Flag

The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10-1-2007 | Nic Fleming

[Names Ash Housewares]

“It’s part of our history, it’s who we are and it allies us with friends,”

Makes sense to me.

[centurion316]

I favor replacing the Union Jack with a hammer and sickle. How better to reflect what has happened to the most beautiful country in the world.

[Apercu]

Rugby World Cup 2008 - Go All Blacks!!

[muawiyah]

http://www.appliedlanguage.com/flags_of_the_world/large_flag_of_falkland_islands_islas_malvinas.gif

I was thinking of something with a sheep on it but the Malvinas already did it.

[Brilliant]

I wish that our problems [in the US] were so simple.

[centurion316]

Perhaps Helen Clark could just acknowledge that the Venezuelans were there before the English and recognize Hugo Chavez as their Soverign.

[jas3]

By Malvinas do you mean Falklands?

jas3

[bill1952]

He is just stirring the pot up a bit.

[muawiyah]

Somebody posted in Wikipedia that: "The Spanish name for the islands, "Islas Malvinas", is derived from the French name "Îles Malouines", bestowed in 1764 by Louis Antoine de Bougainville, after the mariners and fishermen from the Breton port of Saint-Malo who became the island's first known human settlers."

Let me put it this way, if Bretons from Saint-Malo called it that, and were the first human settlers, then that's it's name.

Things with a history like that should not be trifled with by later illegal alien invaders you know.

Particularly when it was done by folks who were probably among my closer relatives in the world at that time.

[bill1952]

Please. I have noted your propensity to be trollish at times and this is one of them.

Stating that Malvineas is the name is repugnant to the UK and is exactly the type of provocative language used by the Argentines in the run-up to that little war. - and you know it.

[jas3]

Let me put it this way, if Bretons from Saint-Malo called it that, and were the first human settlers, then that's it's name.

Do you refer to New York City as New Amsterdam or by the name used by the Indians who sold it to the Dutch?

I smell hypocracy. And it stinks.

jas3

[bill1952]

I smell hypocracy. And it stinks.

Yep.

[muawiyah]

I refer to it as Manhattan, as do you, which is a slight variation of St. Menhoulde which was applied to the place by the first permanent settlers ~ all of whom came from Wallonia.

Do you think I don't know these things?

[muawiyah]

Hey, I don't have to be pro-Argentine to be anti-British ~ I'm just being more nearly historically accurate and I regularly refuse to push everything through what is called "the English filter" ~ which is an historical viewpoint that requires that everything in the world be viewed strictly as an event centered around the UK.

The Ukian people were late comers to the world stage and frequently were NOT the first settlers in a given area.

[Tennessee Nana]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Helen clark is a Socialist ijit...

The current NZ flag is too full of history to change it now...

Wished now I had given in to the childish instinct of wanting to push helen Clark into the drink when she spoke at Lyttleton Harbour during the First Four Ships big doings in 2000...

The Maoris snickered every time she mispronounced that word...who told her that f*** was a Maori word anyway?

LOL

[muawiyah]

Only Islamofascist fanatics, Liberals and Democrats worry incessantly about what they believe is the "hypocrisy" of others. The Moslems are honest enough about their obsession to advocate the death penalty for it.

So, get off your high horse and quit worrying about your misperceptions.

[vetvetdoug]

I guess some groups of people have no purpose in life than to brand a flag or symbol racist or not appropriate. Heritage in a flag means nothing to them or the history behind the formation of the flag or to honor the wishes of those that founded or participated in that endeavor. Its too bad NZ doesn’t have the ACLU, SCLC, Southern Poverty Center to pimp the beliefs of those that wish to change the flag...I am sure Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and many US liberals will love to give them the data and SOP on how they vilified the Battle Flag of the Confederacy.

[george76]

[blam]

"So, get off your high horse and quit worrying about your misperceptions."

(ahem) You mean a Destrier Horse?