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To: EternalVigilance
I said:

...let's see some scripture in which Christ tells us to compel our fellow man to righteousness at the point of a gun or by the scruff of his neck.

You responded:

"Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a reproach to any people." - Proverbs 14:34

"The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God." - 2 Samuel 23:3

Again, there is plenty more, if I care to take the time to post them.

Let's examine:

1. Those are both from the Old Testament, so they are not things Christ said.

2. Neither of them says anything about forcing others to be righteous.

If you can't post something that is a rebuttal something I actually posted, please don't waste my time or yours. And before you simply accuse me of not reading, do me the courtesy of actually reading the above.

295 posted on 10/01/2007 4:14:39 AM PDT by NCSteve (I am not arguing with you - I am telling you. -- James Whistler)
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To: EternalVigilance

And you still have yet to produce anything demonstrating that the Founders were not libertarians.


296 posted on 10/01/2007 4:18:47 AM PDT by NCSteve (I am not arguing with you - I am telling you. -- James Whistler)
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To: NCSteve

Well, I understood that I was talking to a Bible-believing Christian, by your own words.

And Bible-believing Christians know that “The God of Israel, the Rock of Israel,” is, was, and always will be Jesus Christ, the One Who created us.

They also know that all Scripture is God-breathed, God-inspired.

Sorry if I was mistaken in taking you at your word.

And, you’re the only one who said anything about “forcing others to be righteous.” (I believe that is commonly known as a strawman argument.) You can’t force people to be righteous. However, human government IS given to mankind as a gift by our Creator to restrain unrighteousness, human nature, in this world.


297 posted on 10/01/2007 5:24:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The Pledge For America's Revival" - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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