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To: billbears

Oh wow! YOU cannot answer a single question about Paul. Instead you simply put your hands over your ears and scream “no no no no” at every single question presented you!

Instead of answering every question about Paul with a absurd question back, actually answer the questions posed to you.

YOU people want us to support Paul. OK, simple question for any of you to answer. HOW is Paul going to do any of this?

See NO one is going to join you Paulbots when YOUR ONLY response to anyone who questions your god’s dogma is to spew bile at the questioner.

So answer this.

Simple challenge to you Paulites. With NO slogans. NO demagoguery. NO sliming everyone else who doesn’t share your faith. Tell me HOW Paul would do anything. Here is his “Issues page”. NOT a word about what or how he would do anything. Just a bunch of slogans strung together basically screaming bile at everyone and everything.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

So, you Paulites want civility? Then explain to us WHAT and HOW a Paul Administration would do. Do that with OUT sliming any one. No name calling, no hysteric hyper emotive rhetoric. None of the usual Paulite personal attacks in place of reason argument. No cut and pasting of sound bite statements from Paul speeches. NO statements of what YOU think Paul means. REAL plans with documented links so we can read them for ourselves.


23 posted on 09/30/2007 10:59:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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To: MNJohnnie
YOU people want us to support Paul. OK, simple question for any of you to answer. HOW is Paul going to do any of this?

LOL, gotta love the village idiot. The issues have been explained to you several times. Matter of fact it, many of the issues were discussed in detail on a very thread you were on with someone that amazingly doesn't even support Rep. Paul's positions. And yet you posted this same exact thing. Admit it, you've got it copied on a word document so you can just paste it in place don't you.

So yes sonny, it has been explained. But keep C+Ping the same tired response will you? And go back to your crowd so you can crow 'he didn't answer, he didn't answer' even though I, and others, have on other threads.

Then explain to us WHAT and HOW a Paul Administration would do

I've got one for you. How about you explain how your candidate (whoever the hell that may be) is going to do everything he plans to do.

31 posted on 09/30/2007 11:05:10 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: MNJohnnie
So, you Paulites want civility?

Too late. You've already driven off most Paul supporters and other Libertarians.
Now here's some real world "AS IT IS" for you:
72 million registered Democrats.
55 million registered Republicans.
42 million registered independents.

How many of those independent votes do you think you'll win with any of the other Republican candidates?

Say hello to President Hillary!
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163 posted on 09/30/2007 3:09:20 PM PDT by radioman
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To: MNJohnnie

I just wanted to set a few records straight.

I understand why some of you do not support Ron Paul, your Litmus test is the war. For some reason you think that only a liberal democrat can be against the war. Well then 70 percent of the USA must be democrat by those standards.

In reality, only about 10 percent of republican are against the war totally, there were ten candidates, 10 percent of them were against the war. Sounds about right.

Now lets get down to specifics.

1st Ron Paul is for a strong defense. He has always stated this over the years. He has even penned legislation to keep from shutting down military bases on American soil. He has also worked very hard to increase the budget of the VA.

It is not his support for the military you are against. It is his Foreign Policy. Ron Paul is running on a similar Foreign Policy that George Bush ran on in 2000. I guess you forgot that one.

‘But 9/11 changed all that’

Have any of you read the 9/11 Commission Report or did your own research in why we were attacked? Osama bin Laden stated in 96 and again in 98 that he was going to attack us on our soil because of our support of Israel, our bombing of Iraq plus sanctions, and because we had a military base in the land of Mecca.

What does all three of these have in common? It is our Foreign Policy. Ron Paul has been saying that our Foreign Policy was going to cause problems for the last 30 years.

Now it has and we are making it worse. Do any of you really think we are fighting terrorism in Iraq? Before we invaded, there was no al Qaida in Iraq. Saddam and bin Laden were enemies.

I have done a lot of research of the Middle East in the last 6 years. I wanted to understand why we were attacked. If you have read any of bin Ladens speeches, you would understand that he is attacking us because HE wants to be free. Not because WE are free. He even stated this in one of his speeches when he said they are not attacking Sweden, a country considered one of the freest in the world.

please read this speech from 2004 to understand what I am trying to say.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3966817.stm

I live in fear, not of terrorist attacks, but of our own Foreign Policies that do not take into account what our actions abroad cause. They create hate. Hate of America.

How can we change this? That is the 20,000 dollar question. I support the Foreign Policies outlined by Ron Paul in this election. I think it is a step in the right direction for world peace. Osama will stop attacking us and start attacking his own leaders. He has stated this as recently as last month, or did any of you even read that.

I ask that you read his speech from last month.

Specially the part where he says we only have two choices, one is that he will keep fighting us and he will bankrupt us like he did with the Soviet Union, and the other is to change our political leadership.

The media changed what he said, read it for yourself.

http://www.mideastweb.org/log/archives/00000622.htm

Near the end of his speech, a few pages after giving us two choices, he points out that we are not following God (don’t forget God is Allah, Muslims believe it is the same God and that Jesus was a prophet) He says our Bible was changed by man and then he INVITES us to look at Islam. He states that we would not be a waring nation and would not be controlled by big businesses if we were Islamic.

I did not read that any different than a Christian telling us that Jesus died for our sins. He was just preaching to us. No where did he state we only have two choices, die or convert.

I truly believe if you know the facts, you might feel differently. It took me a long time to realize this. I didn’t even want to believe it myself at first. I thought that all Muslims wanted to kill me, well after talking with several, I realized they just want the same things we do.

The only other point I would like to make is that the Texas Republican Party Platform is Ron Paul’s platform with one exception, ‘preemptive war’.
http://www.texasgop.org/site/PageServer?pagename=library_platform

Ron Paul believes in the Just War theory of Christian tradition by Augustine in Civitas Dei, ‘The City of God.’

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_war

Please remember, Ron Paul voted to go into Afghanistan to get Osama bin Laden. This was a ‘Just War’, we were attacked. 6 years later and Osama is still a free man.

D. Bryan James
Owner - Mr. Jim’s Pizza
Carrollton, TX


292 posted on 10/01/2007 1:27:53 AM PDT by Pizza God
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