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To: Puddleglum; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
"I don't think he ever resorted to telling someone they could kiss his ass, either. He had more principle than that."

Can't resist a shot at the founder of the forum and community you use to espouse your worship for Ron Paul. Me thinks you should be zotted, but it is not my call.

I have said many times on FR, my Dad fought in WW2 for 2.5 years in the Pacific and missed my oldest brother being born and did not see him until he was over 2 years old, and my Dad, God Bless his soul will have no problem telling an anti-war surrender coward to kiss his ass and he is 83 now and the survivor of a heart attack and stroke.
198 posted on 09/30/2007 5:10:17 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney
Can't resist a shot at the founder of the forum and community you use to espouse your worship for Ron Paul. Me thinks you should be zotted, but it is not my call.

I simply responded in kind. Jim is a grown man and can read and respond as he sees fit. No need for sycophants-r-us to climb on board.

The discourse will rise or descend to whatever level it merits. And the notion that I worship anyone on this planet is absurd. Baiting, projecting maybe, but a big old tar brush that misses the mark. If anything, I save worship for the one person who merits it.

201 posted on 09/30/2007 5:19:52 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: jrooney

I think this issue about Ron Paul being some sort of coward needs to be explored more.

I also had a relative who survived Guadalcanal and went on to become the Marine Corps Commandant of Camp Pendleton. He never spoke of it but I read of his heroics in a box of newspaper clippings in my grandmother’s attic when I was young. He was:

Lt. General Jefferson Fields - Commanding General of Camp Pendleton (1960), Director of Personnel for the entire United States Marine Corp (1962), Commander of the Marine Corps Development Command at Quantico, VA (1968) - born in Crisfield.

When I would see him at family get togethers in the 1960s, he was always tight lipped with everyone. I don’t think he would ever use “Kiss My Ass” to anyone but he certainly seemed capable of kicking anyone’s ass. He gave the distinct impression that something else was more important than even family and I suspect that was duty to one’s country. He had only one daughter and would give her a short smile but that was it. The rest of his demeanor showed his mind was somewhere else. His uncle, one of my great-uncles told me he saw alot of dying and death in the Pacific and he could never forget it, each day it possessed him and made him seem somewhere else.

As for Paul, I think he has attracted anti-war types like yellowjackets to apple juice. I don’t think he intended it to be so. Correct me if I am wrong but I don’t see him as antiwar. I think he wanted Congress to declare war and not let the President get bogged down in nation building and police action.

In fact I know Ron Paul wanted Congress to declare war rather than do what they did. I think that is is whole argument, Congress did not do the right thing after 9-11. And now we have a country divided with the dems pushing disunity to the extreme.

But what I could not accept about Ron Paul was his statement that the troops needed to be brought home immediately. That is reckless and as Fred Thompson said it would embolden Al Quaeda more than any other action could.

Ron Paul needs to revise that statement. He has broken with his principles before on the Partial Birth Abortion ban. He certainly could revise his troop home position. He needs to revise something to the effect that he will give Congress one year to hand him a formal Declaration of War on terrorism. Any Congress that would refuse to declare war of this nature would hang.


203 posted on 09/30/2007 5:36:04 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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