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Mich. State Employees Told to Stay Home
Google & AP ^ | September 28, 2007 | By DAVID EGGERT

Posted on 09/28/2007 8:21:43 PM PDT by Jack Black

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To: Jack Black
Like they were in 1967, they will be barracaded with armed men.

Yup. They barricaded my town, and set a 7(?) PM curfew. It was eerie, seeing maps of the riots showing a northern-going spike reaching towards the community we'd left a few years earlier.

61 posted on 09/28/2007 10:47:13 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Jack Black

Michigan, huh? LOL.


62 posted on 09/28/2007 10:48:17 PM PDT by khnyny (Bill Clinton is showing the signs of a life of general debauchery.)
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To: Jack Black

67% Of MIchigan Employees are NON-ESSENTIAL???

Why are they on the payroll in the first place???


63 posted on 09/28/2007 10:49:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: Jack Black

Maybe a large portion of the residents of Detroit will flee like the population of New Orleans fled from the city after Hurricane Katrina AND MANY NEVER RETURNED.

Now, we have Hurricane Jenny. Oh, I’m lovin’ this.


64 posted on 09/28/2007 11:06:57 PM PDT by no dems (Don't hate me and call me names because you can't reply to my posts intelligently.)
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To: eyedigress; inkling
Good you found a smaller environment. It's always better.

I always worked for small companies until a series of buyouts landed me in Honeywell. (Today's Honeywell -- not the company bought by Allied Signal.) I still miss the small company environment, but Honeywell has just given me a job that a small company could not support. Don't know how it will turn out, but it'll be an exciting ride for as long as I can hold on.

(And if I fall off, there are some small companies that would likely hire me.)

65 posted on 09/28/2007 11:14:58 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: inkling
I think Michigan’s beautiful, especially in the summer.

I'm not sure I agree about summer; my decades-old memories are too full of memories of hiding from heat & mugginess (not to mention the other end of the spectrum: February), but spring and autumn (apples better than Washington's!) are prominent.

Though for all I now live in spectacularly gorgeous country with very mild climate (you have to be able to tolerate dark dreary winters though) here in the Pacific Northwest, I'd love to move back. If only the folks still there would fix their government...

66 posted on 09/28/2007 11:22:28 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

Good Luck. :^)


67 posted on 09/28/2007 11:24:48 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Jack Black

Well, Granholm has never had an original thought in her empty little head. She is probably hoping to pull off the same scam that Gov. Corzine did in NJ when he shut down the state gov.

It’s got multiple facets, but in the end state employees ended up getting paid for all the “shutdown days”, it turned into a vacation for them. Corzine is now a folk hero to the state gov workers in NJ.

Corzine and Dems were also able to wallop non-corrupt Dems and RINOs in the media, so there is a poltical angle too.

You’ll see the governor sign a Executive Order the day the shutdown ends, it will give all state employees all their pay for the period of the shutdown...

It’s a horrible destructive and cynical tactic, hope it doesn’t spread further upon the nation.


68 posted on 09/28/2007 11:30:46 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: bill1952
In California the top income tax rate is 12%. Every time someone comes up with a nifty idea like Stem Cell Research or Government Mental Health Programs, they just add another 1% to the tax rate and the idiot liberals and illegal aliens vote it in. Since the “rich” end up paying the extra 1%, it’s no sweat off their backs.
I still remember when California was Reagan Country. (sigh)
69 posted on 09/28/2007 11:32:59 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: Jack Black
Detroit is the second largest city, in terms of square miles, in the USA after Los Angeles.

Not that it changes your post much but the largest city in the continental US in terms of square miles is Jacksonville, FL.

:-)

70 posted on 09/28/2007 11:34:18 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: grellis

ping


71 posted on 09/28/2007 11:37:35 PM PDT by raygun (Boy that Catch-22 is a pretty big catch. Yep, its the best that there is.)
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To: shankbear
Why don’t all you trained workers come to Texas.
Your statement was excised with original punctuation (as you submitted it). The answer to why Michiganders just don't jump ship like a bunch of rats probably has a whole lot more to do with the Alamo than you may ever understand.

I posit also the possibility that a great many who you are addressing have thousands $'s socked into their homes and, well, gee, sockdolager, homes ain't sellin' here, huh. Go figure.

I grow tired of all the various condescending attitudes (both for and against).

Quite frankly, I find your sentiments to be the epitome of arrogance to make a request with the punctuatiom of a period instead of a qwexion mark. I understand the difference between the two probably escapes the intellect of most people: but your callous insistance of utilization suggests to me an arrogance that displays tact, diplomacy and sensitivity that is not the Texas (as great a state as it may be) stong-suite, eh?

72 posted on 09/28/2007 11:50:02 PM PDT by raygun (Boy that Catch-22 is a pretty big catch. Yep, its the best that there is.)
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To: Jack Black

I am late to join your cocktail party- and missed your celebration this evening. Cheers to the beautiful state of Michigan and the Michigan Republicans! and you are so right about the city of Detroit


73 posted on 09/29/2007 12:10:36 AM PDT by michgirl
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To: raygun

In the historical past, when confronted by similar economic disasters as what is happening in Michigan right now, many home owners faced with an unsellable house due to prevailing market conditions had a simple solution.

They carved G.T.T. into the porch posts or door lintel and abandoned their property to seek a better life in Texas. G.T.T. stands for “Gone To Texas”. I am told that there are many such houses in the North and Northeast, still standing, that still have G.T.T. carved into them.

Has it occurred to you that if you can’t sell your house, you are probably better off abandoning it?


74 posted on 09/29/2007 1:04:33 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jack Black
Members of the Granholm administration met with both House parties on Friday afternoon, raising hopes that a proposal was close to fill a $1.75 billion shortfall in the fiscal year that starts Monday.

Florida is also having budget problems, and the legislature is having a special session next week on it. I believe that the most discussed plans are to cut budget items rather than try to increase tax rates, as California did a few weeks ago ($700 million was removed from the California budget by the governor's line-item veto. As far as I can tell, tax rates weren't changed in California, but California taxes are complex compared to most states.)

Florida's projected shortfall I believe is somewhere around $1 billion; at least that's what I have read that they are going to try to remove from the budget next week in the special session.

Florida's past and projected tax revenues can be found at http://peoplesbudget.state.fl.us/reports/Preformatted/Annual_General_Revenue_Receipts_By_Source.pdf

An opinion piece by former Governor Bob Graham can be found at http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070928/OPINION05/709280319/1006/OPINION

75 posted on 09/29/2007 1:06:33 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Spktyr
Thank you for sharing that sentiment with me. You do understand that I'm going to share that with Grellis.
76 posted on 09/29/2007 1:09:49 AM PDT by raygun (Boy that Catch-22 is a pretty big catch. Yep, its the best that there is.)
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To: raygun

Feel free. Not that I know (or much care) who Grellis is.

Here’s my point. If all your money is tied up in a house (or a car, or some other investment/property), but you can’t sell it (and it doesn’t look like you’ll be able to sell it any time soon), it’s not an investment. It’s a drain. If you can’t get your money out of it, and there are other opportunities awaiting you elsewhere that will actually pay, you should consider that investment, car, house, whatever a loss, write it off as such, and move on. Think about it - holding on to it would hold you back and deny you the chance for success.

Alternately, look into reverse mortgages or turning it into rental/lease property managed by a company.


77 posted on 09/29/2007 1:16:13 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jack Black

Odd how over taxing and over spending will send you down the tubes everytime.


78 posted on 09/29/2007 1:24:08 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Spktyr

Grellis is the Freeper who undertook it upom themselves to form a state ping list for MI.


79 posted on 09/29/2007 1:33:46 AM PDT by raygun (Boy that Catch-22 is a pretty big catch. Yep, its the best that there is.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Without trying to create a controversy over red vs blue, I will say that in 81 I moved from a state trending blue (Pa) to a state trending red. (Fl)

Here I saved enough money to start a business - and without 152,000 regulatory hassles and bureaucratic roadblocks - and go on to become relatively wealthy.

I was shocked at how easy it was to actually save money here without all of those niggling little taxes on everything that masquerade as fees, such as Auto, inspections and everything else under the sun.

Hence my made up saying:

taxes don’t hurt the rich - they prevent you from becoming rich

In Florida there is no income tax and I pay less in real estate tax here than I do for my property in Pa.

80 posted on 09/29/2007 4:59:57 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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