Posted on 09/28/2007 3:13:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
WASHINGTON, September 28, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An online database, freely available to the public, allows one to search for reported adverse effects from vaccines. The database covering data for the United States includes the controversial Merck HPV vaccine Gardasil, identified as "HPV4" in the database.
The US Government's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database indicates that there have been 7 deaths associated with administration of Gardasil. Age is listed for four of the girls who died at: 11, 12, 15 and 19.
VAERS lists 3,137 reported adverse effects stemming from Gardasil. The database is voluntary and thus is unlikely to include all adverse effects from the vaccine.
The database, placed online by the National Vaccine Information Center, also indicates 44 adverse effects associated with the vaccine's administration were considered "life threatening." In 94 cases, vaccine recipients required hospitalization.
To search the database online visit:
http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.html
Right. Just as it's the parent's decision whether or not the kids get a measles vaccine. And kids die as a result of adverse events associated with the measles vaccine. I don't see any stories posted on FR in re: measles vaccines. Also, keep in mind that 7 deaths associated with the vaccine doesn't neccesarily mean 7 deaths caused by the vaccine.
All comparisons in a debate like this should be apples-to-apples comparisons. Anything else is propaganda, no matter how well intentioned.
I don't think that's quite correct. It prevents a disease which we understand to be necessary for the formation of a certain form of cancer. That may appear to be a distinction without a difference, but it is not.
There should be a record of this. I’d change my point of view in less than a second if you are right.
People died from the polio vaccines; that was well worth the risk nonetheless.
I provided a link at #33
This is to further the agenda. If it contained arsenic it would still be labeled “Safe”.
Um...probably not. Does phen-phen ring a bell? Vioxx? Anything?
Polio is spread by less intimate contact then HPV.
If people had only caught Polio by “bumpin’ ugly” Jonas Salk wouldn’t have worked himself half-to-death to develop a vaccine.
It does not follow from that, that there should be no vaccine available. Nor does it follow that any risk outweighs any benefit for this vaccine.
Some of those reports are secondhand and undetailed. “A doctor was told at a conference” or “A nurse said a doctor told her.” They may refer events already reported - you can’t tell. It is very difficult to attribute an anaphylactic reaction that occurred a month after the vaccination to the vaccination - I’m not sure you could do it. Other deaths perhaps linkable to Gardasil may have gone unreported.
You would have to compare two large matched populations of young women and girls, one vaccinated and the other not, looking for events like these - thromboses and anaphylactic shock, etc - and see if there really was an increase.
Mrs VS
I blogged on the vaccine, today.
http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/2007/09/homework-fallacies-about-gardasil.html
An association does not mean “causation.”
Using the database, there have been 606 deaths associated with the DTAP, the new formulation of the Diptheria, Tetanus and pertussis vaccines.
There have been 478 associated with the flu vaccine.
I do hope that people will do the search, HPV4, with “yes” for ?Death?
Most of these are “someone told someone else.” A couple of the girls had had many vaccines at once, including one who had the chicken pox vaccine, Hepatitis A vaccine, and the Gardasil the same day. There is one girl who had Influenza B and developed Acute Respiratory Syndrome. There’s another with pneumonia, and another with asthma.
“Information has been received from a physician who attended a conference that mentioned two patients who were vaccinated with Gardasil. Subsequently the patients died. The cause of death not reported. Attempts are being made to obtain additional identifying information to distinguish the individual patients mentioned in this report. Additional information will be provided if available. Additional information has been requested.”
“Information has been received from a nurse practitioner who heard from an emergency room (ER) nurse that an 11 year old female was vaccinated “within in the past month” in approximately May 2007 with a first dose of Gardasil. Subsequently, 3 days after vaccination the patient presented to an ER. She experienced cardiac arrest, required lung bypass (ECMO) and “may not have expired.” It was also reported by the same nurse that the physician from the hospital said that “the death was due to an anaphylactic reaction to Gardasil.” The anaphylactic reaction and cardiac arrest were considered to be life threatening by the reporter. Additional information has been requested.”
“Information has been received from a licensed visiting nurse via a nurse practitioner. The nurse practitioner was told by a friend that a female patient was vaccinated with Gardasil and two weeks alter developed a blood clot.”
THis one was most likely due to the Influenza B:
“Onset of symptoms on 3/1/07: fever, sore throat, cough, and myalgia. Respiratory failure on 3/6/07. 6/1/07 Received Death Certificate from epidemiologist which reveals COD asmultiorgan system failure and influenza B viral sepsis with contributing cause of staphyloccoccal secondary infection. Medical records included w/death certificate indicate patient was transferred to higher level of care on 3/6, was intubated & in PICU w/pneumonia & ARDS. Reportedly had been in good health until 3/1/07 when she developed sore throat, nasal congestion, rhinnorhea & low grade fever. COntinued to worsen & developed myalgias, chest pain & nonproductive cough w/higher fever. Seen by PCP on 3/5 & rapid strep was neg & dx was probable influenza. Sent home & developed nausea, vomiting & diarrhea as well as petechial rash over abdomen. Taken to outlying ER on 3/6 & found to be in respiratory failure, intubated & transferred to higher level of care. Respiratory status declined further & was placed on oscillator & ECMO. Peds ID consult done. Consult states had HPV vax at PCP on 3/2 & no other recent vaccines. 6/1/07 Received fax medical & vaccine records from CDC who had contacted provider. Reveals that on 1/2/07, patient received TDaP & HPV. VAERS database updated w/same. On day of vax patient also dx w/right CTS, migraine HA, scoliosis. She was referred to Neuro & PT for the CTS & HA.”
I repeat, “associated” does not mean “caused.”
Did the article say men, with no further description? Because the particular men who are getting throat and neck cancer are also at risk for anal and rectal cancer. It is not much a risk for most boys when they grow up.
Mrs VS
Actually, the research has been ongoing for about 8 years, and the immunity seems to be much longer than 5 years. That was one reason to give it young - the younger girls had a higher measurable immune response. However, we know that the measurable immune response is not absolutely necessary, since the “memory B cells” can be dormant, yet function when necessary.
“It almost sounds to me like EVERYBODY should be getting this vaccine, young, old, male, female, and everybody else.”
I thought that also and asked my obgyn. (I’m 42). He said no, he didn’t recommend it. I don’t understand why.
This article explains the age recommendations and why.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1656934,00.html
ping
Merck was bribing politicians to madate this. When the Feds get on the case, a lot of people will be going to prison.
I trust you forgot the sarcasm tag. Nanny state-ism doesn’t go over very well here on FR.
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