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To: xzins
It is obvious to me that we've got either outright traitors or committed peaceniks in the Defense Department.

There is no statute of limitations on murder, so why don't we bring murder charges against all the still living WWII veterans for what they did in WWII. In many battles there was a "take no prisoners" and "if it moves, kill it" attitude. Maybe we should track down all the guys who dropped bombs on Dresden and charge them with pre-meditated murder?

These prosecutions of soldiers who are simply doing their job are going to get us all killed!

34 posted on 09/27/2007 6:20:10 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; Girlene; bigheadfred; RedRover; AliVeritas; Nathan Zachary
It is obvious to me that we've got either outright traitors or committed peaceniks in the Defense Department.

There is something seriously wrong. You are absolutely correct. It has to start at a point no higher than brigade or division and then goes all the way to the top. I'm afraid it's careerism + political correctness = Betrayal level CYOA (cover your own ass.)

Girlene also points out a serious unfairness in regards to these trials. The military has intentionally kept them low key, tried to keep the trials overseas, tried to assign junior lawyers to the accused, has FULLY funded the prosecution beyond belief, and has kept quiet while the soldier families have to pay out of pocket for experienced legal help ($30,000+), airfare for lawyers and family to Baghdad, living expenses for lawyers and family to Baghdad, and has EVEN required the families to sign personal security waivers acknowledging that the military won't assist them with safety while they're in Iraq. I'm appalled at the treatment of the defense provided these families. It is bankrupting them.

Many don't know that freeper bigheadfred is the uncle of one of these accused soldiers, Spec Evan Villa.

40 posted on 09/27/2007 6:33:43 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins
Maybe we should track down all the guys who dropped bombs on Dresden and charge them with pre-meditated murder?

Don't forget the fire-bombing over Japan.

More from the article....

....."The charges against Sandoval, Hensley and a third sniper, Sgt. Evan Vela, have caused some of their sniper scout platoon's shootings to be questioned, as well.

"I just came to a unit, Delaware, that they will not pull the trigger on people," said Sgt. Andrew G. Murphy III, according to transcripts of a Baghdad court hearing. "Now they're like, 'What's going to happen if?' And I'm like, 'I don't know; I can't tell you. If you feel threatened, take the shot, and I hope, I pray, that your command takes your back, because you have split and milliseconds to make decisions like this.' " ".....
41 posted on 09/27/2007 6:35:33 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: P-Marlowe

No, that was still a good war. It will take another generation for the memories of those vets to be smeared and dragged through the mud. It iss a necessary phase.


54 posted on 09/27/2007 6:57:36 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: P-Marlowe

“It is obvious to me that we’ve got either outright traitors or committed peaceniks in the Defense Department.”

And it all makes sense when you look at the decrease in personnel end strength under Clinton. There are still some impressive warriors in the senior levels of the military, but during the huge drawdown of the Clinton years a lot of good officers left in disgust and a lot of good officers were forced to leave. Many of those midcareer officers who hung on have now brownnosed their way to the top. They are the bureaucratically-inclined, politically correct risk avoiders in charge at the Pentagon who are letting the JAGs run the war.

The sad thing is that the President doesn’t seem to be doing much to clean up the mess.


62 posted on 09/27/2007 7:57:20 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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