Evangelicals turn on Thompson

Thompson's refusal to back a nationwide ban on gay marriage has irritated potential supporters.

Fred Thompson is failing to meet expectations that he would rally widespread support from Christian conservatives, and he almost certainly will not receive a joint endorsement from the loose coalition of "pro-family" organizations, according to leaders of the movement.

Many religious conservatives, faced with a Republican primary top tier that lacked a true kindred spirit, initially looked to Thompson as a savior. But the former Tennessee senator has disappointed or just not sufficiently impressed the faith community since his formal campaign launch earlier this month.

While Christian conservatives once seemed willing to readily give Thompson the benefit of the doubt earlier this summer, when questions were raised about his lobbying for a pro-abortion-rights group, they are not willing to turn the other cheek anymore.

Even some on the religious right who remain sympathetic to Thompson are unhappy about his refusal to back a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, and were unpleasantly surprised by his confession that he doesn’t belong to or attend any church and won’t talk about his faith.

It was Thompson’s refusal to discuss his faith that is likely to deny him any unified backing from the organizations that comprise the Arlington Group, the umbrella coalition of almost every major social conservative group in the GOP constellation.

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In July of 1994, Murphey did an interview with Thompson for Republican Liberty (the official newsletter of the RLC).

In the interview Thompson identified himself as a “Goldwater Republican.” At the time being associated with Goldwater, who had just badmouthed Jerry Falwell and was on the outs with the Religious Right, was a codeword for “Moderate/Pro-Choice” or “Libertarian” Republican.

Thompson said in the interview that like Goldwater he was a strong supporter of Middle Class Tax Cuts, Term Limits, School Choice and a Strong Military.

But it was his answer on Abortion that came through loud and clear:

Murphey:

Some conservatives got flustered by your comments on abortion and Roe vs. Wade. Would you like to explain your position on abortion?

Thompson:

Government should stay out of it. No public financing. The ultimate decision must be made by the women. Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own.

Thank you.

Instead of more smears and innuendo, falsehoods and obfusaction against Fred, lets look at some of the major votes he cast that gave him a 100% pro-life Senate voting record.

LATE-TERM ABORTION BAN. Passage of the bill to impose penalties on doctors who perform certain late-term abortions, in which the person performing the abortion partially delivers the fetus before performing the abortion. Approved 54-44, December 7, 1995. Fred supported the bill.

PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION. HR 1833 (CQ Senate Vote 301), Partial Birth Abortion Ban Veto Over-Ride. Passage, over President Clinton’s April 10 veto, of the bill banning a late-term abortion procedure, where the physician partially delivers the fetus before completing the abortion. An exception would be granted when the procedure is necessary to save the life of the mother, provided no other medical procedure can be used. Rejected 57-41 (a two-thirds majority of those present and voting – 66 in this case – is required to override a veto), Sept. 26, 1996. Fred supported the legislation.

PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN. HR1122 (roll call vote 71). Passage of the bill to impose penalties on doctors who perform certain abortion procedures, in which the person performing the abortion partially delivers the fetus before completing the abortion. An exception would be granted where the procedure was necessary to save the life of the mother. The bill was amended to allow an accused doctor a hearing before a state medical board prior to trial. Passed 64-36, May 20, 1997. Fred supported the bill.

HYDE AMENDMENT. S947, FY 1998 Budget Reconciliation (roll call vote 129). Kerrey (D-NB) amendment to strike the "Hyde Amendment" prohibiting the use of federal funds for abortions except in cases of rape or incest, or when pregnancy threatens a woman's life. Rejected 39-61, June 25, 1997. Fred opposed the Kerrey amendment.

ABORTIONS IN OVERSEAS MILITARY HOSPITALS. S2057 (roll call vote 176). Murray (D-WA) amendment to repeal current law prohibiting overseas U.S. military hospitals and medical facilities from performing privately funded abortions for U.S. service members and their dependents. Rejected 44-49, June 25, 1998. Fred opposed the amendment.

PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION. HR1122 (roll call vote 277). Passage, over President Clinton's October 10, 1997, veto, of the bill to ban a certain late-term abortion procedure, in which the physician partially delivers the fetus before completing the abortion. Rejected 64-36, September 18, 1998. A two-thirds majority of those present and voting (67 in this case) of both houses is required to override a veto. Fred supported the legislation.

TRANSPORTING MINORS FOR ABORTION. S1645 (roll call vote 282). Motion to invoke cloture (thus limiting debate) on the substitute amendment to the bill that would make it a federal crime for anyone other than a parent to transport a minor across state lines with the intent to obtain an abortion. Motion rejected 54-45, September 22, 1998. Three-fifths of the total Senate (60) is required to invoke cloture. Fred supported the cloture motion.

PROHIBIT DRUGS TO INDUCE ABORTION, HR 1906 (Roll Call Vote No. 173). June 8, 1999 - Coburn (R-OK) amendment to prohibit the use of any funding for the Food and Drug Administration to test, develop, or approve any drugs for the chemical inducement of abortion. Amendment adopted 217-214, 8 June 1999. Fred supported the amendment.

MILITARY ABORTIONS, S. 2549 (Roll Call Vote No. 134) The Senate voted to kill an amendment that would have provided abortions in military hospitals. The vote was 50-49, 20 June 2000. Fred opposed the amendment.

MORNING AFTER PILL, HR 4577 (Roll Call Vote No. 169) The Senate refused to kill an amendment stopping the use of federal funds to distribute the “morning after” pill on school grounds. The vote was 41-54, 30 June 2000. Fred supported the amendment.

GOVERNMENT PAYOUT FOR MILITARY ABORTIONS. S. 2514 (Roll Call 160) The amendment would allow military women and dependents of military personnel stationed overseas access to government-provided abortions. ACU opposed this taxpayer funding of abortions, but it was adopted 52-40 on 21 June 2002. The bill was passed (52-40) Fred opposed this bill

The future on this is pretty well predictable:

1) The FMA will fail because libertarians will side with liberals and block it. The libertarians will say they did it to protect states’ rights.

2) The Supreme Court will use the 14th Amendment to strip every state in the union of its power to define marriage, ordering every state to implement state sanctioned same-sex “marriage” with all deliberate speed.

3) The Supreme Court will extend its Bob Jones ruling to homosexuals, and the IRS will move against any churches that don’t perform same-sex “marriages”.

4) The federal government will expand Social Security and other such programs to include homosexuals.

5) Liberals will high-five one another. Conservatives will say “I told you so”. Libertarians will scratch their heads and wonder what went wrong.

Well Said!

Liberals & Libertarians foolishness in the things they are forced to support should tip them off to the brokenness of their moral compasses. Spiritual Blindness has always been the only valid explanation.

My favorite 2 questions to ask them are "If you knew 100% that your daughter would not come to any harm and you only had two choices where she could go to college: 1. Israel or 2. Any Muslim nation you want to choose?" and "Based on that obvious truth, should we have troops stationed in a region to help defend our foremost ally (Israel) who is under continuous and open threats of being attacked?"

What the Liberals & Libertarians don't understand is that we have massive numbers of troops and war equipment in the Middle East to stop the Brutal Spread of Islam into Africa and Europe. For most of them the thought hasn't even crossed their minds. Rather, they prefer to focus on Liberties that demonstrably lead to a diminishing of an individuals freedoms.

As if doing dope in the privacy of your home, shacking up with your girlfriend/boyfriend which often leads to an abortion, the right to have a safe haven for perversion based on "States Rights" are more important freedoms to defend, rather than the freedom for us to pursue a culture that creates a healthy family environment which is opposed to irresponsible behavior.

I guess they prefer to have ghettos everywhere.

Laws never work where there is not a culture of personal responsibility. Personal responsibility only comes from having faith in the Source of goodness.

No matter how hard one tries, science and human logic cannot in and of itself produce wisdom, for true wisdom comes only from a supernatural source; the only God who inhabits eternity!

Instead of more smears and innuendo, falsehoods and obfusaction against ~~Fred~~ Mitt, lets look at some of the vetoes he cast that gave him a 100% pro-life Gubernatorial vetoe record.

There. Fixed it.

Abortion and Sanctity of Life

Governor Romney was presented with legislation concerning life issues on several occasions from the 85% majority Democrat Legislature in Massachusetts. In every instance he took the pro-life position by vetoing bills or lobbying for the pro-life approach, including the following actions:
He vetoed the bill providing state funding for human embryonic stem cell research
^{(Theo Emery, "Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney Vetoes Stem Cell Bill," The Associated Press,}^5/27/05⁾
He vetoed a bill that provided for the "morning after pill" without a prescription because it is an abortifacient and would have been available to minors without parental notification and consent
^{(Governor Mitt Romney, Op-Ed, "Why I Vetoed The Contraception Bill," The Boston Globe,}^7/26/05⁾
He vetoed legislation which would have redefined Massachusetts longstanding definition of the beginning of human life from fertilization to implantation
^{(Governor Mitt Romney, Letter To The Massachusetts State Senate And House Of Representatives,}^5/12/05⁾
He supported parental notification laws and opposed efforts to weaken parental involvement
^{(John McElhenny, "O'Brien And Romney Spar In Last Debate Before Election," The Associated Press,}^10/29/02⁾
He fought to promote abstinence education in public school classrooms with a program offered by faith-based Boston group Healthy Futures to middle school students. Gov. Romney's administration was the first in Massachusetts to use federal abstinence education funds for classroom programs.
^{(Office Of Governor Mitt Romney, Romney Announces Award of Abstinence Education Contract, April 20, 2006)}
Governor Romney: "Times of decision are moments of great clarity. Before I was Governor, the life issue was just that, an issue. But when responsibility for life or ending life was placed in my hands, I made the right decision. I chose life."
^{(Governor Mitt Romney's Remarks At The National Right To Life Convention Forum, June 15, 2007)}
Eight prominent leaders of pro-life and pro-family groups in Massachusetts wrote an open letter praising Gov. Romney for his leadership and accomplishments in these important issues and attesting to his commitment to the pro-life and pro-family causes. (This letter is a MUST READ)
Massachusetts Citizens For Life Executive Director Marie Sturgis: "Having Governor Romney in the corner office for the last four years has been one of the strongest assets the pro-life movement has had in Massachusetts."
^{(Kathryn Jean Lopez, "An Early Massachusetts Primary," National Review, 1/10/07)}
Massachusetts Citizens For Life Pioneer Valley Chapter Chairman Kevin Jourdain: "Mitt Romney was a great Governor, who served with honor and distinction. But most importantly, he was a pro-life Governor. He vetoed a number of pro-abortion pieces of legislation and made many pro-life appointments. He was always there for us."
^{(Kevin Jourdain, Remarks, Agawam, MA, 5/10/07)}

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