Posted on 09/26/2007 11:26:45 AM PDT by toddlintown
Miller Beer has a connection to MoveOn.org: Most of MoveOn’s commercials are made by experienced operatives at a left-wing advertising firm in Santa Monica, California.
The firm of Zimmerman & Markman occupies a small suite of offices in a four-story building a few blocks from the beach. Bill Zimmerman, the agency’s strategist, has a PhD in psychology and got his start in politics registering black voters in Mississippi in 1962. He worked with Jane Fonda on anti-Vietnam War mobilization and has played a role in drug decriminalization campaigns. Pacy Markman, the agency’s copywriter, had a long career in commercial advertising (he wrote the indelible slogan “Miller Lite: everything you always wanted in a beer, and less”)...
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Nope. They are women.
If Kurt Busch didn’t have enough problems already.....
Bill Zimmerman, the agency’s strategist... worked with Jane Fonda on anti-Vietnam War mobilization and has played a role in drug decriminalization campaigns...
bad juju for sure.. lol .. when it rains.. it pours.. that’s racin’ (well,, sort of)
“I like my beer cold… my TV loud… and my homosexuals flaming.” Homer Simpson.
That's really graphic when you follow it through to consumption. :)~
Maybe because you’re kind of NEW here.....ANY ad agency or ANY company that does business with MOVEON.org is DIRTY.
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I don't think Jack Daniels will be sponsoring any panty parties.
That is quite a (Collectivist) list.
One of the good things about the private sector, what is left of it, is that the owners of a business can decide what kind of clients they wish to represent. Ethical practitioners can draw the line on gambling, alcohold, all kinds of client categories. Same with the ads they produce -- the owners and management have control over what is proposed or sold to the client.
It's not just about the money, except for people with no ethics.
Very fine (albeit somewhat inconsistent) beer. Good info.
It fits their sissy beer image.
Miller Lite in the loafers.
If that is all there was to the connection, then agreed. Did you see the story about Miller supporting the Gay version of the Last Supper? I'm sure someone here can find that and provide a reference faster than I can, but I read it this morning on FR somewhere. The Miller Ad was at the bottom of the picture.
We have a winner!
Miller Beer also promotes the illegal immigration protests against Americans (Chicago, IL)
>> Maybe because you’re kind of NEW here.....
No need to condescend, slick. I’ve been here since September of 1998 (under a different handle) ...
... which, if I’m not mistaken, is roughly SEVEN YEARS longer than you have. Generally speaking, I don’t appreciate being talked down to, newbie.
>> ANY ad agency or ANY company that does business with MOVEON.org is DIRTY.
OK - no argument here. However, I certainly wouldn’t make the leap that anyone that does business with an ad agency that does business with moveon is necessarily dirty. That seems like a HUGE logical leap. There is NO evidence that Miller was even aware that the agency did business with moveon ...
This connection is just too shaky to get into a tizzy about.
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Markman, himself openly gay, said Equality for All is way ahead of the other political coalitions his firm has worked with in the past.
The company has experience winning LGBT initiative fights and other issues at the ballot box, from Pacy Markman’s early efforts to defeat the homophobic Briggs initiative in 1978 to the firm’s leadership on Proposition 215, which legalized medical marijuana in California in 1996.
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Zimmerman & Markman is widely regarded in the progressive community for its highly creative political advertising
MoveOn accounts for roughly half the business of their seven-member company; the rest of their time is spent on various initiative campaigns. Their successes include passage ofOregon’s physician-assisted suicide law, Arizona’s campaign-finance overhaul and last year’s California measure hiking taxes on those making more than $1 million to expand mental health programs and help the homeless. Their list of clients, past and present, reads like the pages of a left-wing telephone directory: the American Civil Liberties Union, Greenpeace, the Hollywood Women’s Political Committee, People for the American Way. It seems that even the Democratic Party, with its fitful feints to the middle, is not entirely to their taste.
Zimmerman says. ‘’We’re progressives who support the Democratic Party because it’s the best vehicle for achieving the kind of political power that could get us to where we want to go.
Zimmerman has managed or been the lead media consultant in more than 75 ballot initiatives in 13 states. In 2003 and 2004, he served as campaign manager for the MoveOn.org Voter Fund, while Zimmerman & Markman created and produced most of the advertising the organization sponsored.
“Our firm has used highly emotional and memorable advertising to help pass some of the most controversial initiatives in the nation, including physician-assisted suicide twice in Oregon, medical marijuana in seven states, drug treatment instead of incarceration in California, state-funded political campaigns in Arizona, civil asset forfeiture reform in Oregon and Utah.”
“Pacy Markman and I work only for clients we personally support. We’re not rich, but we sleep well at night.”
“That the political pendulum will soon swing back away from right-wing Republicans and religious charlatans.
>> I’m sure someone here can find that and provide a reference faster than I can, but I read it this morning on FR somewhere. The Miller Ad was at the bottom of the picture.
I read it - it certainly wasn’t flattering to Miller. I do wonder if Miller knew of the content of the ad, or was just a sponsor of the event (i.e. perhaps they just provided beer sales to a bunch of gay freakos - certainly not a crime against Christianity - and unknowingly got their logo on a flier that they didn’t necessarily approve of).
Either way, I think we’d be making a HUGE leap to assume that concurrent users of an advertising agency have any actual connection whatsoever.
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