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Consumer woes hit Wall Street
http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/25/markets/stockswatch_ny/index.htm?postversion=2007092508 ^ | 9-25-07

Posted on 09/25/2007 6:11:54 AM PDT by Hydroshock

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To: Toddsterpatriot

I’d rather have $1000 inflated dollars than zero uninflated dollars...


21 posted on 09/26/2007 6:13:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: capitalist229

That’s true. You can argue for or against it, but facts are facts, we do have a debt-based monetary system. In fact every country worth living in (from an economic standpoint) does as well...FWIW...


22 posted on 09/26/2007 6:14:49 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: RockinRight

Oh, sure, bring logic to a panic thread.


23 posted on 09/26/2007 6:20:31 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: MojoWire

Tihs is just the tip of teh iceberg to. Wer’e doomed.


24 posted on 09/26/2007 6:23:51 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Hydroshock
THat faith is long gone for many, and it will not becoming back soon.

Yeah right.

That's why the Dow Jones Industrial 30 are breaking new highs, almost daily.

That's why corporate earnings are through the roof.

That's why even Warren Buffett, highly partisan Democrat, had to go bullish as of late.

That's why REAL household income, as calculated by the GAO, once again rose faster than inflation and remains on course for more solid gains in the years to come.

One little blip in the skyrocketing housing market and all the chicken littles come flying out of their hole in the ground.

As I've said before, the GWB economy is built on REAL earnings, REAL P/E strength, REAL corporate growth, not just in the US but throughout the world.

The Clinton economy was built on nothing but dot.com hype, bolstered by fudged numbers released by the SEC which in the 1990s was headed by Clinton butt-boy ... ? ... I forget his name, but he used to be head of Goldman Sachs, and he still remains a highly partisan Democrat to this day.

No wonder he fudged the numbers in Clinton's favor so much during the late 1990s.

No wonder NASDAQ lost 46% ... that's right FOURTY-SIX PERCENT of its value during Clinton's final six months in office.

Yet the lib-sucking media still tries to blame GWB for the economic downturn of 2000-2001.

25 posted on 09/26/2007 5:25:10 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: MojoWire

No, it is built on a devalued dollar, which has lost 40% of it value since 2001. Factor that in to the dow as it is now and it has barely moved.


26 posted on 09/26/2007 6:13:34 PM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: BlabItGrabIt

yeah, that would be just brilliant. make the US Dollar even more worthless and convince the Chinese to ditch the dollars they have been accumulating...


27 posted on 09/26/2007 6:18:58 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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its not about "making the dollar strong" - its about keeping the dollar as the worlds reserve currency - believe me, its *really* important to the US economy that it remain so...

US dollars being used for a business deal between people who may never, ever set foot in the US keeps US inflation low.

if there is capital flight because the dollar is perceived as worthless, it *will become* worthless as overseas dollars fly home and crowd out the dollars already sloshing around in the US...

that will truly be armaggedon.

the US just narrowly missed Saudi Arabia uncoupling from the US dollar this week. if they had, we could have had a meltdown on the dollar - check the charts - check the LIBOR - check the price of gold - check the Canadian Loonie achieving partity with the US dollar - check the price of OIL - the increase is due not so much inflation or supply problems: its price is much flatter in EUROS. check the Dollar index - it dropped to 78.10 or before it bounced back to 78.50 or so, after the Saudis were *coaxed* and warned about uncoupling...

28 posted on 09/26/2007 6:52:46 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: jennyjenny

LOL! You’ve got my favorite gloom-and-dooming, platitude spewing poster down pat.


29 posted on 09/26/2007 7:56:59 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: Hydroshock; M. Espinola; SirLinksalot; Pelham; stephenjohnbanker; GodGunsGuts; Calpernia; ...
*BUMP*! !

Bernanke's Panicked Rate Cut Only Helps Wall Street and Banks

Excerpts:

Aside from the dollar and long-term bonds, markets rose last week as the Federal Reserve demonstrated that it is more fearful of a slowing economy and banking woes than inflation. In fact, it is willing to sacrifice the dollar to save the banks. * * *

The Fed is obviously terrified. Chairman Ben Bernanke built his career on a doctoral thesis that claimed that the Fed didn't cut rates fast enough during the 1929 stock market crash. But if you look at a chart of the Depression bear market with an overlay chart of interest rates, you'll see that the Fed cut interest rates as the market topped. And when you look at the charts for a few years later, when the market finally bottomed, you'll see that the Fed had been lowering rates all the way down. * * *

LOL, LOL ! Helicopter Ben Bombs Wall Street with Greenbacks . . .
30 posted on 09/27/2007 3:09:37 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You tell’em, toddster- no need for those nasty recessions. The New Paradigm rules! No more business cycle! Prosperity will increase forever.


31 posted on 09/28/2007 12:41:45 AM PDT by Pelham (The DREAM Act, amnesty by stealth + chain migration)
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To: BlabItGrabIt
The value of the dollar and rhetoric about inflation are straw men used for dimocrapic propaganda.

Missed the '70s, did you? Too young to remember stagflation?

32 posted on 09/28/2007 12:43:34 AM PDT by Pelham (The DREAM Act, amnesty by stealth + chain migration)
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You tell’em, toddster- no need for those nasty recessions.

Recessions are great. I think we need to have more. Raise rates now!!

33 posted on 09/28/2007 4:37:32 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: ex-Texan

Great graphic! :)


34 posted on 09/28/2007 5:48:43 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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