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To: stephenjohnbanker
About 60-70% wish they were in America......or at least, enjoyed our freedom.

I doubt that very much.

Iran is like any other turd world country. Always there are visible, vocal, Westernized people who are constantly whispering in our (itching) ears that the people there really love America and are just waiting for us to commit resources and lives to putting THEM in power.

These people are a tiny minority afloat on a sea of bovine, borderline-retarded peasants who want to be whipped and who hate us.

We keep making the same foolish mistake over and over.

If 70% of Persians love us and want our freedom, let their males sack up and do what needs doing.

Until they do, it's just a pretty fairy tale.

12 posted on 09/24/2007 3:18:13 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.'s just a pretty fairy tale.)
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To: Jim Noble

Have you been there??

How would you like to go up against a government that will KILL YOU IF YOU OPENLY STRAY FROM THE NORM?

Look, most Americans are not well traveled.....I lived in Malaysia for 18 months, and was treated quite well. It is a muslim country. If you want to listen to Mahmood, or the people suffering under their repressive regime, do so. I know better.


16 posted on 09/24/2007 3:33:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Jim Noble

“If 70% of Persians love us and want our freedom, let their males sack up and do what needs doing”

Take a flight over to Tehran, and try that yourself, Mr. Brave!


17 posted on 09/24/2007 3:36:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Jim Noble; stephenjohnbanker
"About 60-70% wish they were in America......or at least, enjoyed our freedom." Jim, just a few words to add to this if you don't mind.

No sir, you are incorrect, figures like the ones you state are often given by those who are looking to to get their greedy palms on some of that 75 million dollars thrown at the Iranian "opposition".

Jim is correct, if these people really wanted America's style of freedom then you would see them rising up - the reality is that they don't.

The truth is that the majority of Iranians have been indoctrinated into believing that their system of government is superior to ours and there is a profound veracity in the logic used to support this argument - "God is infallible, Man isn't".

In the last several years many are starting to see America as the poster child of what is wrong with democracy - claiming that America's style of democracy is more of a 'free for all' rather than freedom.

For Iranians and many other muslims - the interest in America is more superficial - money and material possessions. In other words, no Iranian will refuse a green card - but he ain't coming to America for the reasons you hope he is.

One of the biggest objections of the Muslim world is homosexuality - often not discussed - but something that Muslims will never accept - I discussed this as a breaking point a few years back in my blog - and it got little attention. This is the line in the sand.

Looking through the MSM right now I find myself shocked that no one seems to have picked up what Ahmadinejad was actually saying concerning homosexuality - he said Iran doesn't have gays and then called it a phenomenon. There is a profoundness there not picked up. What Ahmadinejad said is essentially true - and I can assure you that the majority of Iranians agree with him.

If I were the US right now I would be damn careful at waving the rainbow flag around as a symbol for freedom.

I'll be blogging on this very subject later today...

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

35 posted on 09/24/2007 4:37:17 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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