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1 posted on 09/24/2007 7:00:13 AM PDT by Doofer
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Dobson, places too much importance on his own endorsements. unfortunately so do many of his follower who would rather throw out the baby with the bath-water than take a chance on someone who espouses most of the founding principles of this country.


2 posted on 09/24/2007 7:04:39 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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I guess Bauer didn’t get his marching orders from Dobson...


3 posted on 09/24/2007 7:05:11 AM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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That would be Gary Bauer.


4 posted on 09/24/2007 7:05:22 AM PDT by fred4prez
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http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070924/29428_Evangelical_Leader_Counters_Dobson%3B_Supports_Thompson.htm


5 posted on 09/24/2007 7:05:22 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The Flyin' Imams Since 11/20/06)
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Ha!...Bauer!...yeah, nice Gary

..you who was once held in high esteem by Dobson & millions of other Evangelicals until your fall from grace.

Nice pile-on.~extreme sarcasm

6 posted on 09/24/2007 7:06:44 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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It’s time to win votes for Thompson by bashing Dobson for not being a supporter.

That’ll work.


7 posted on 09/24/2007 7:06:45 AM PDT by donna (Whoopi on Communism: “We haven’t given it enough time.”)
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Well it looks like Dobson has removed himself from relevance.
Gary Bauer has stepped up to fill the void.
So long James, it was nice while it lasted.


9 posted on 09/24/2007 7:09:48 AM PDT by counterpunch (Mitt and Kerry wish you a great Pride Weekend.)
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I never figured a lobbyist for abortionists could find a lot of supporters among Christian conservatives.


11 posted on 09/24/2007 7:13:44 AM PDT by Perchant
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One hand: I agree with everything Bauer is quoted as saying.

Other hand: I respect Dobson much more highly than Bauer.


21 posted on 09/24/2007 7:29:25 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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Gary Bauer. The guy who endorsed McCain in 2000 when he withdrew from the race.

No surprises here.


26 posted on 09/24/2007 7:39:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The Pledge For America's Revival" - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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LOL, Gary Bauer!!??

That'll pull in about 10 votes for Thompson.

Now Jack Bauer... that'd help Thompson. LOL!

31 posted on 09/24/2007 7:53:14 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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JMO, but I'm heartily sick of "evangelical leaders" who dabble in politics like this.

They treat Christianity as just another political pressure group ... and thereby jettison the One Thing that makes us different from political pressure groups.

Not that Christians shouldn't be aware and active ... but this stuff reminds me of this passage:

But he turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man." (Matt. 16:23)

60 posted on 09/24/2007 8:46:33 AM PDT by r9etb
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Three things about Dobson’s comment.

First, it was private. That might have been an IRS thing, to distinguish him from his organization. But more likely it was a privately expressed opinion, and he hadn’t yet really made up his mind to speak out. It’s not like Dobson to leak emails. That’s not his M.O.

Second, Dobson is one of those guys who is a purist. If he makes up his mind that a defense of marriage amendment is the only way to go, then he casts out anyone who tries to seek the same ends by a different route.

Third, or to come at that second point from another direction, it’s not that Thompson supports gay marriage. He opposes a constitutional amendment for prudential reasons, because he thinks it’s not the best way to reach the goal. Maybe because he knows it won’t pass, and therefore is merely a distraction; maybe because it makes a federal issue out of what should be a state issue. But it’s clearly wrong to say that Fred MUST support passage of the amendment or else. It’s not unreasonable to argue that there are better and more workable ways to pursue the issue.

For instance, of course “marriage” is between a man and a woman. It has been in every language and culture for the past 2000 years, and thousands of years before that. What, do we have to amend the Constitution every time the leftists arbitrarily change the language? That could involve thousands of amendments. To dignify this stupidity with a constitutional amendment is to dignify the agenda-driven leftists’ manipulation of the language.

We will only escape this trap by electing or appointing honest judges, who will grant that when the Constitution or common law say “man,” for example, that means “human being” first and “male of the species” second, as it has done for thousands of years until the language was reconstructed by leftists. The same with “marriage.”

We don’t need no stinkin’ amendment. The law is already clear. We need honest judges, politicians, reporters, and school teachers, who will stop playing these manipulative language games.


61 posted on 09/24/2007 8:47:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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It’ll be interesting to see who Tony Perkins, the current Presidemt of the Family Research Counci, decides is okay to represent religious conservatives.

James Dobson is obviously in the New Gingrich camp. After Newt`s open confession to Father Dobson, he’s in like flynn. Barf!


65 posted on 09/24/2007 8:55:40 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Doofer; Ottofire; marinamuffy; flynmudd; twonie; Peace4EarthNow; Nightshift; WileyPink; doc1019; ...

Baptist ping
This may be the only time I have ever disagreed
with The Good Doctor.


73 posted on 09/24/2007 9:03:19 AM PDT by WKB (It's hard to tell who's more afraid of Fred Thompson; The Dims or the rudibots.)
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Why don’t these people just preach the Gospel and stay out of politics?!?!?


75 posted on 09/24/2007 9:05:56 AM PDT by trillabodilla (Jesus Saves)
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I see Hunter’s 2% of supporters have weighed in on the thread. Typical.


77 posted on 09/24/2007 9:14:46 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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Gary Bauer supports Fred Thompson?

Then that’s another reason why I won’t. Thanks for the info.


93 posted on 09/24/2007 10:30:27 AM PDT by tabsternager
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Dobson is being too particular on this one. I’d support a federal marriage amendment, but leaving it to the states in the federalist style of government is also a good solution. In fact, letting federalism take care of this one has its own advantages. First of all, if the federal govt decides to define marriage as one man and one woman, what’s to stop them from changing that definition later if they should so choose? Secondly, if it’s left to the several States and your state makes a decision on the matter you don’t like...there’s always the next state over. This will likely also have the positive side effect of confining the radical gay rights activists to a few already liberal states, thus getting them out of our hair.


97 posted on 09/24/2007 10:48:30 AM PDT by JamesP81
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How about getting the government out of marriage altogether? Why does the state have any jurisdiction over family relationships in the first place?


110 posted on 09/24/2007 12:32:56 PM PDT by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not mutually exclusive.)
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