Posted on 09/24/2007 6:15:44 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
Two former U.S. Border Patrol agents sentenced to lengthy prison terms for shooting a drug-smuggling suspect have asked a federal appeals court to overturn their convictions, saying they were charged with a nonexistent crime and convicted after the jury was given improper instructions by the trial judge.
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Great facts (the arrest) as always!
LOL.
Great minds think alike. Thanks for bringing the thread back on target.
My opinion of Sutton has dropped even lower.
I wish the agents had had Brewer during the trial. The man is obiviously a real lawyer.
I predict, you will be asleep in a few hours. ;-)
I usually just tune out of the tired old songs.
Ping!
If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.
I never defended the convictions on the specific counts and have always said the jail terms were excessive. I’ve also said I would support a commutation though not a pardon as i believe, along with the jurors, that R&C did not have reasonable cause to fire their weapons and that they engaged in a cover up.
Go ahead and make up what you want, it fits well in your make believe world.
“The agents were instructed to let him go so as not to damage him as a witness against the Border agents.”
And you know this because you read it at WND?
“Either the testimony of dopers is admissable in court or it isn’t. End of story.”
Hmmm. So if Rush Limbaugh was asked to testify in a court you would challenge this because he had an addiction to oxycontin?
The person who made the allegation about the second dope run was also a drug smuggler, yet you seem to accept this as truth without any suspicion.
Can’t have it both ways.
No, I think I first heard about it when a congressman brought it up during a session of congress. But I'm sure you know this is false becuase US Attorney Johnny Sutton said so.
Wow. I guess if we read it in the media it must be true, right?
This is the first I or anyone I know has heard of this. Got anything to back it up other than this one sentence mention in a Austin-American Birdcageliner?
Or are you going to base your entire reputation on that you hope it’s true?
Dude, he wasn’t shot in the hip, he was shot in the buttock, it severed his urethra, ricocheted off his pelvis, and exited then lodged in his left thigh.
You don’t know the simplest facts about this case, do you? Getting your info from WND as well?
Now, regarding the border problem, you accept both, or you accept none.
I've done nothing.
He did "fix" it, to send a message to any other BP agents who thought they should be pursuing illegals.
To answer your question, yes it is possible to move after you’ve been shot in the butt and thigh. He wasn’t running, he fell when hit then limped back to Mexico, even R&C testified he was “walking funny”.
“C’mon - common sense tells one that he WASN’T shot by our border patrol agents!”
After the bullet was removed from OVD and sent to ballistics a report was generated. After seeing the report Ramos and his attorney stipulated in court the bullet that hit OVD was from Ramos’s gun. How much clearer can you get? Are you calling Ramos a liar?
“I heard on a talk radio show that he wasn’t treated for several weeks AFTER he was supposedly shot by our border patrol agents.”
Then it must be true if you heard it on talk radio. BTW, at trial OVD testified he immediately went to a quick care clinic in Mexico but they couldn’t fix his urethra, that’s why he sought care in the US.
“Who’s to say that he wasn’t shot AFTER he got back into Mexico.”
Uhhh, Ramos.
“After all, they never came up with the bullet that was taken out of him.”
Uhhh, the bullet was tremoved from OVD at a US hospital and sent to ballistics for testing. A report was generated that was sent to both lawyers for R&C. After review, they decided not to contest the results of the findings.
You getting your info from WND as well?
Here we go, same old crap, new day. You apologists for Sutton and his pet drug smuggler never give up the spin.
Okay, Bob.
You’ve dismissed WND, the Austin-American Statesman, the Washington Times, Knight-Ridder, the Inland Daily Bulletin, and probably a host of other newspapers and continue to totally IGNORE the SUBJECT of the thread—the legal defense position that Sutton’s rogue prosecutors pursued charges where THERE WAS NO CRIME!
But, you got me... I will ignore them all in the future and get my news from Johnny Sutton and Debra Kanof who are much more reliable. Aldrete-Davila was just a poor innocent victim, a licensed truck-driver (probably crossing the border now under our new trade regulations) who just wanted to make money for his poor, ill mother. He was shot by a couple of rogue agents who decided to go out and “shoot some (unarmed) mexicans” in the back while they were running away... and they are just really stupid to have put it on the radio beforehand to rally the entire Fabens Texas border patrol to the scene to observe it.
Yep! That’s the ticket!
Everybody is tuning you out. Why not just put a sock in it?
Yeah, that’s why Sutton says the second arrest is “still being investigated”. Even he can’t force himself to say there wasn’t another marijuana load.
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