Vietnam lessons lost in Iraq war (MEGA LIBERAL B/S ALERT)

Chicago Sun-Times ^ | September 23, 2007 | CAROL MARIN Sun-Times Columnist

[Chi-townChief]

"... guardsmen ordered me to shut it down in the face of more demonstrations. I obeyed. Locked the doors. As I walked to my apartment across the street, another guardsman slugged me with his riot stick. Just in case I was thinking of joining the demonstration, I guess.
At the time, though not a supporter of the war, I wasn't part of the protest in the streets either. The most I'd done was argue about it with a guy I briefly dated who was heading to officer training school. A pilot, his helicopter was shot down and he was killed just months later."

I don't buy one word of that - it's wrapped way too nicely with no witnessess left to corroborate any of it. Just as Ms. Marin may have purchased and plagiarized others' term papers when she was a student at U of I, I believe these lefty "journalists" also have a clearinghouse of apocryphal stock Vietnam stories for them to use when the need arises.

[muawiyah]

Carol Marin is pretty casual about justfying her part in the genocide that occurred in Indo-China after we left.

Guess Hannah-Arendt and her observation on the banality of evil was absolutely right.

Notice how Carol edges into advocating even more genocide in Iraq.

Good Lord, how that woman hates ~

[ANGGAPO]

I guess if we “Cut and Run” it will be just like Vietnam won’t it? What a dipstick.

[RC2]

I am sure glad we didn’t listen to this type of idiot during WWII. We raise cowards today, except for our military.

[steel_resolve]

to stop what just about everyone believes

this is the nonstop meme that liberals cry again and again. If you tell a lie long enough and loud enough, it beocmes the truth in 21st century America. This reminds me of the global warming debate - if you have a different opinion, you are shunned, not allowed to participate in the debate. I believe in the war, and I believe history will bear our decisions out.

One last thought - if Israel incvaded Syria and found a linkage to WMDs moved from Iraq - do you think they would change their tune? Me neither.

[capt. norm]

Sad..... She

(and Linda Yu)

were my favorite Chicago TV news-babes back in the early 1980's.

[Thombo2]

“I don’t buy one word of that.”I agree.Too convenient.Kinda like when a reporter cites “un-named high level sources” to add credibility to an article.Pure BS.

[L98Fiero]

“I don’t buy one word of that -”

I don’t either. Pure unsubstantiated crap.

[Tai_Chung]

Unlike the Vietnam War, the war on Terror against the United States will not end just becuase the US leaves Iraq. All we do is give the enemy territory and Iraq’s riches to plan more devastating attacks against our way of life.

[abercrombie_guy_38]

I do see at least one Vietnam lesson that has been lost in Iraq:

Do not tolerate other countries sticking their noses where they don’t belong.

[alloysteel]

The US won in Viet Nam, and it was declared a defeat.

The military victory was simply GIVEN AWAY, by a Congress that chose to defund the war.

The South Vietnamese ‘weren’t ready’ for democratic reforms, it was claimed, so no more money should be voted to prop up the non-Communist government.

And of course, the nascent government of South Viet Nam collapsed because they were constrained from using the necessary ruthlessness needed to impose civil order and domestic tranquillity.

No such constraints were placed upon the Viet Cong or the North Vietnamese military. Several hundred thousands either died or fled the stark discipline imposed by the regime that set up a satellite control center in Ho Chi Minh City, once known as Saigon.

[Sender]

It's easy for the left to ask whether invading Iraq was a good idea, knowing what we know now. Considering how little the left does know now, I don't think they are qualified to answer that question.

But the more relevant question for today is, knowing what we know now, is is a good idea to just cut and run and let all our sacrifice count for nothing?

[Carbonado]

Thats exactly right - Joseph Goebbels would feel right at home today at any of the large MSM organizations, manufacturing any “news” needed to promote their agenda. Their zeal to promote fake-but-accurate stories and invented facts is obvious to even the most casual observer, but one does have to be an observer and actually pay some attention.

Photoshopped pictures (Mexican flags brushed out, wailing Is-Lame-ic mothers pasted in, etc etc etc), invented facts, false reports of staged events, ignoring obvious facts and never putting those facts in print are all aspects of a war of information and sentiments.

The first casualty in that war has been the remaining shreds of legitimacy for the MSM. Their believability rating for the average citizen is about equal to congresses rating - 11%.

The second casualty is about to be the Leftist dominated media organizations themselves. They don’t call it the Dinosaur Media Death Watch for nothing.

[Hack]

Another baby boomer contemplating her navel. I’m surprised she forgot to quote the Beatles.

[avacado]

I thought that Vietnam comparisons were out of fashion. I guess only Bush cannot do the comparison?

[Eagles6]

The biggest lesson from Vietnam is that you don’t allow the dems to have anything to do with strategy. The President has done a good job of ignoring them so far.

[bert]

The lesson to be learned from the Vietnam war is that the American left is the greatest enemy of the Republic.

[Col Freeper]

I was working my part-time job at the Geology Library when guardsmen ordered me to shut it down in the face of more demonstrations. I obeyed. Locked the doors. As I walked to my apartment across the street, another guardsman slugged me with his riot stick. Just in case I was thinking of joining the demonstration, I guess.

Oh Please Carol!

You should really submit your "column" for consideration of an award for the best fiction on 2007.

[quinhon6869]

I take exception to this comment from the article: “napalm, a devastating chemical weapon used to scorch the skin of the North Vietnamese.”

I would like to say that napalm, when properly applied, reduced the NVA, as well as the Vietcong, to cinders. Once reduced to that state, they were unable to hold their Ak-47’s and shoot at us. Personally, I was very thankful for the liberal distribution of napalm on the enemy.

[Chi-townChief]

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