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To: liege
I didn't say they should keep quiet. But religious fervor has started more wars in history than any other causes. When one group tries to force itself on an entire people, some of whom don't want or care to listen, that creates animosities.

Isn't being a witness more to the glorification of God and not the imposition of that belief on all?

13 posted on 09/23/2007 7:47:22 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Keyes/Paul '08 - When you can't get crazy enough.)
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To: Pistolshot

See #11.
I was responding to the article, not you.


21 posted on 09/23/2007 7:59:14 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: Pistolshot

“But religious fervor has started more wars in history than any other causes”

Really? Lets see, WW1, WWII, Pol Pot, the cold war, vietnam, 1812, civil war, and on and on. More people have died in conflict over the last 200 years than in all of recorded history. With the exception of the current they were not caused by religion.

Religious fervor helps many and is often falsely blamed by those seeking to attack devout people.


22 posted on 09/23/2007 8:01:31 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Pistolshot

Start naming those “religious wars” ~ we need a list so we can see if religion comes out on top or is a very secondary reason for war.


24 posted on 09/23/2007 8:06:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pistolshot
But religious fervor has started more wars in history than any other causes.

OK, what are you gonna tell Osama and the Saudis?

How about the Iranian Mullahs?

You think they are gonna listen to you? 'Pod

43 posted on 09/23/2007 8:37:55 AM PDT by sauropod (You can’t spell crap without the AP in it.)
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To: Pistolshot
As a former Professor of History I will tell you that is really not true—although the left has said it enough that now it has become common mantra. Most wars have been fought purely to maintain or gain power. Often folks have claimed a religious bent, but it actually only came down to power plays in the vast majority of historical cases.

Dobson is a good man, even if he is wrong occasionally. If Fred is nominated, he will support him. Signed---Ward

147 posted on 09/25/2007 7:30:16 PM PDT by June Cleaver (in here, Ward . . .)
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To: Pistolshot
But religious fervor has started more wars in history than any other causes.

Not true, although that's the party line. And I'm on your side of the question with Dobson! From VoxDay:

"A more systematic review of the 489 wars listed in the Wikipedia's list of military conflicts, ranging from Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars to the 1969 Football War between Honduras and El Salvador, shows that only 53 of these wars - 10.8 percent - can reasonably be described as having a religious nature, even if one counts each of the 10 Crusades separately. If there is a god responsible for this ever-present bloodshed, it is Mars, not Jehovah or Jesus Christ."

152 posted on 09/26/2007 6:15:08 AM PDT by jammer
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