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1 posted on 09/23/2007 7:18:26 AM PDT by Doofer
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Dr. Dobson presents himself on a pretty high plain with slick magazines and TV shows and radio broadcasts, but when he pops Fred Thompson for “no passion, no zeal, no ‘want to’,” what part of that glorifies God? I don’t get it, not at all.

In a nutshell what evangelism should be about, not politics. In what is supposed to be a secular type of country, where no one religion controls the government, we have the some in the religious right believing they can control politics.

2 posted on 09/23/2007 7:28:26 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Keyes/Paul '08 - When you can't get crazy enough.)
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Dr. Dobson’s Dumb Mistake

From the little I've seen of Dobson I know that I wouldn't look to him for political advice. Probably not for any other kind of advice either.

3 posted on 09/23/2007 7:28:42 AM PDT by FreePaul
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This one should have had a "big barfer" alert ~ the guy has a personal theological axe to grind ~ wants everyone to express their religious beliefs the way he and his liberal friends do, or NOT AT ALL, particularly in public.
4 posted on 09/23/2007 7:29:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Phonies


5 posted on 09/23/2007 7:30:18 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Q: Personal Hygiene A: Name something that offends both Terrorists and Leftists)
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"I have long held the opinion that “the Christian right,” as it is called, should stay out of politics. "

I guess he should stay out of politics and let Ted Kennedy run things.

6 posted on 09/23/2007 7:39:28 AM PDT by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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It’s very glib to say “God is neither a Republican nor a Democrate” and to conclude that “God”—i.e., Christians—should keep aloof from politics. Well, I don’t think God is a Republican, but he sure as hell is not a member of the party of sodomy, abortion, treason, and neo-communism.


7 posted on 09/23/2007 7:42:30 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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“(Thompson) has no passion, no zeal, and no apparent ‘want to.’ And yet he is apparently the Great Hope that burns in the breasts of many conservative Christians? Well, not for me, my brothers, not for me!”


My take at this stage of the game it will come down to Thompson versus one of the others, most likely Giuliana or Romney. Thus if Dobson has written off Thompson then he’s down to basically electing Clinton as there is no way a 3rd party candidate will be elected.

Dobson will have to change his position, have a conversion to Thompson or live with a Democrat for the next several years. I can’t believe he or his follows want that but then it takes all kinds to make the totallity of mankind.


12 posted on 09/23/2007 7:46:17 AM PDT by deport (>>>--Keep your powder dry--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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Roy Exum: Dr. Dobson’s Dumb Mistake

About the only thing worse than painting yourself in a corner is doing it when the floor doesn’t need painting in the first place.

So I was doubly disappointed a couple of days ago when Dr. James Dobson, a one-time child psychologist who has become a leading Christian activist, absolutely skewered presidential candidate Fred Thompson in what was to me a dazzling display of dumb.


It was and remains a dumb mistake by a man that I agree with on about 98% of other issues.


14 posted on 09/23/2007 7:48:44 AM PDT by Grunthor (Drive carefully. It's not only cars that can be recalled by their maker.)
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I have long held the opinion that “the Christian right,” as it is called, should stay out of politics.

Not "stay out" of politics, but concern themselves with the fundamental qualities that made the United States a safe haven for religious belief.

15 posted on 09/23/2007 7:51:04 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Somebody had to say it. Why keep on pretending the Emporer is fully dressed. Thompson is a big loser to Hillary if he gets the nod. I will vote for the guy and send cash to his campaign if he gets the nod, but he is not looking like a winner to me.


16 posted on 09/23/2007 7:51:27 AM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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“Why should a Christian activist, whose goal is to teach about that same “hope” and enable anyone from a mass murderer to a tainted politician to have the same promise of “happily ever after,” get all jumpy over Fred Thompson at this stage of the game?”

LMAO...what’s Dobson suppose to do at this stage of the game, “hope” that Thompson “comes around”?

“I have long held the opinion that “the Christian right,” as it is called, should stay out of politics.... “I wish the churches would stick to salvation and the politicians would handle the marriage amendments and campaign finance questions. “

I’ll bet you do.


18 posted on 09/23/2007 7:55:59 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Support Duncan Hunter in YOUR State....http://duncanhunter.meetup.com/1/)
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Let me guess. You are a Thompson supporter.


28 posted on 09/23/2007 8:12:26 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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I agree with Dobson, but what’s the alternative? We’ve got a choice between several uninspiring candidates.


29 posted on 09/23/2007 8:12:35 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Where has Fred been???? He should be on all these Sunday Morning shows. Hillary sure wants to be noticed. She is on everyone. Fred has not been in the news lately. Does anyone know if he is taking a break?


32 posted on 09/23/2007 8:14:17 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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In theory a trial lawyer could proclaim himself a Christian activist and be accepted as one. I cannot remember such a theory being publicly tested. The same problems are posed for the pychologists that are posed for lawyers. The Bible is THE textbook when it comes to human psychology, and whatever written by Freud or Dewey collides with it. No one has big enough arms to embrace the Bible, Freud, and Dewey at the same time. For Dobson to be a Christian activist and a professing psychologist is like being bi-spiritual.


34 posted on 09/23/2007 8:21:42 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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So Mr. Exum. Does this mean that you don’t approve of Jackson and Tawana Sharpton huckstering at Black churches?

Or of Obama going to black churches and electioneering?

Just asking. ‘Pod.


39 posted on 09/23/2007 8:35:50 AM PDT by sauropod (You can’t spell crap without the AP in it.)
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The author of that article is an idiot and doesn't know what he's talking about: SAVE THE DATE: The Florida Family Policy Council Along with Special Guests Florida Speaker of the House Marco Rubio and U.S. Congressman Adam Putnam, Presents: An Evening with Former U.S. Senator and Law & Order Actor - Fred Thompson - Friday November 16, 2007 VIP Reception 5:30-6:30pm Dinner 6:30-9:00pm Westin Diplomat Hotel: 3555 South Ocean Drive, Hollywood, Florida Call 407-251-5130 or E-mail PeggyB@FLfamily.org to have a formal invitation mailed to you. The Florida Family Policy Council is a 501(c)(3) non profit, non partisan, educational organization that does not support or oppose candidates or engage in electioneering activity. The FFPC is associated with Dr. James Dobson and Focus on the Family.
40 posted on 09/23/2007 8:36:00 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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If Dr. Dobson doesn't like Thompson, which candidate does he like?


46 posted on 09/23/2007 8:47:13 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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Dr. Dobson presents himself on a pretty high plain with slick magazines
and TV shows and radio broadcasts, but when he pops Fred Thompson
for “no passion, no zeal, no ‘want to’,” what part of that
glorifies God? I don’t get it, not at all.


It's the author who is clueless.
About the legislation (from LBJ) that muzzles ministers (unless
they are in a major church "of color") from any substantive commentary
on politics if they wish to keep their tax-freedom and maximize
the "most bang for the buck" from charity donations.

I like Fred Thompson.
For me, he SAVED "Law And Order" after years of the weasely
politically-correct Dian Weist(sp?).
But Sen. Thompson hasn't always shown "the fire in the belly".

But if he ends up anywhere on the Nov. 2008 ticket...
I'm still voting "R".

Because, as Ike said about his decision to launch on June 6, 1944...
"the alternative is too dreadful to contemplate".
71 posted on 09/23/2007 10:09:44 AM PDT by VOA
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I have long held the opinion that “the Christian right,” as it is called, should stay out of politics.

I wonder if the author feels the same way about the Christian left?

83 posted on 09/23/2007 10:56:56 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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