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Roy Exum: Dr. Dobson’s Dumb Mistake
Chattanoggan.com ^ | September 22, 2007 | Roy Exum

Posted on 09/23/2007 7:18:21 AM PDT by Doofer

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To: John Leland 1789
Entirely the opposite. You will find, if you look closely, that the reference to a "variety of other faiths with only the blah blah blah" is NOT a reference to the Presbyterians, et al, but to OTHER FAITHS.

Read "Other Faiths" as being another item in a list.

We've had fundies run the country before and they didn't do as bad a job as the secularists.

However, Dr. Dobson should keep his nose out of the Christian Church Movement type of theology to which Thompson adheres (reaching back to Campbell, Stone, and the Primitive Baptists). He's well within OUR tradition if not his own ~ which is another way of saying Dr. Dobson is theologically in error from at least one other major point of view.

101 posted on 09/24/2007 5:52:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You are a historical revisionist.


102 posted on 09/24/2007 6:11:34 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: muawiyah

What you see below is only an extract of an eight-page length list posted not too long ago citing presidents all the way to FDR. Since the 1960s, especially, the humanists have tried to re-write the history of the late 18th century to exclude the undeniable influence of biblicist (fundamentalist, if you will) Christianity on the founding and life of our nation and its leaders.

“It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible” —George Washington

“So great is my veneration for the Bible that the earlier my children begin to read it the more confident will be my hope that they will prove useful citizens of their country and respectable members of society...” —John Quincy Adams

“That book, sir, is the rock on which our republic rests” —Andrew Jackson

“I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given man. All the good from the Savior of the world is communicated to us through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong” —Abraham Lincoln


103 posted on 09/24/2007 6:17:04 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Doofer

Pretty much my view on this as well.

dumb move by Dobson. I’d say he’s in too big a hurry to be a ‘political player’.


104 posted on 09/24/2007 6:32:07 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: John Leland 1789

Well stated. Amen.


105 posted on 09/24/2007 7:59:29 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: Hostage

This is an exhibition of the Library of Congress. It is shocking:

Religion and the Founding of the American Republic
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/


106 posted on 09/24/2007 8:06:04 AM PDT by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Dobson is no political analyst or seer, but I see that he is a very flawed and dangerous man for entering that arena with dumbed-down sheep.


107 posted on 09/24/2007 10:19:29 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Lee Bollinger is a Traitor to America)
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To: John Leland 1789
BTW, Abe Lincoln was not a member of any regular church ~ said so himself, but his parents were members of a Primitive Baptist congregation ~ that is, pretty much the same thing as Thompson.

Now, are you trying to tell me George Washington wasn't a "fundie"? Guy even paid rent on a box in a church in Alexandria!

108 posted on 09/24/2007 12:19:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: donna
There's nothing at all "shocking" in that exhibit.

Even the greater part of our Bill of Rights reflects the religious thinking of people whose parents, grandparents, great grandparents, et al, were oppressed by the King of France or his running dog lackeys on account of religious positions they might take. Every element of that document points directly to a tyrant's abuse of fundamental rights.

109 posted on 09/24/2007 12:22:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CharlesWayneCT

They asked Fred about this at a stop in Texas about the time it came out. Fred said he had never spoken to Dobson.

Out of respect for James Dobson, I wish he had talked to Fred, asked some questions.


110 posted on 09/24/2007 12:28:50 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: daylilly

I agree, I wish Fred had taken the time to talk to Dobson. I know we all like to look for the candidate who doesn’t “pander”, but it’s good to touch base with the leaders and movers in the major groups you need to win the republican primary.

Whether you agree with Dobson or not, it is not smart to ignore him.


111 posted on 09/24/2007 12:49:27 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: muawiyah

The site is packed full of information - I just assumed it would be shocking to some.

Did you mean King George? I understood that France’s revolution didn’t work as well as ours because they tossed the Christian beliefs like the baby with the bath water.


112 posted on 09/24/2007 3:28:38 PM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: driftdiver; Politicalmom; jellybean; Reagan Man

I wish I knew the truth about this. I called Focus on the Family and couldn’t get an answer from them, they supposedly can’t get involved in politics, but he can as a private citizen.

The website tries to make it sound like it was media bias, spinning something that wasn’t true. This is about the earlier statement he made about whether Fred was a Christian or not.

http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000004681.cfm

This one claims the reporters have lied about Dobson and his comments.

http://www.focusaction.org/press/A000000236.cfm

Some of the information is that Dr. Dobson thinks highly of Fred.

They don’t have anything on the website about the most recent item, the email. They mention Glenn Beck repeating the false information [?] then apologizing for believing it.

If anyone has more information, I’d love to hear it.


113 posted on 09/24/2007 4:13:28 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: Pistolshot

Without the religious right, it is hard to fathom how Reagan was elected.


114 posted on 09/24/2007 4:17:35 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: daylilly

Focus on the Family admitted he wrote the email when I called, only after I repeatedly asked the first person I spoke to whether it was a “hoax” as she insinuated.

The tone of the email was pretty vitriolic. I don’t think Fred
deserves to be singled out in such a way, and it sounds like personal animus to me, which is odd, since they have never actually met.

I think the whole thing is horrid. I removed myself from the mailing list after supporting them for over 20 years.

I think Dobson looks stupid after berating Glenn Beck. (I had forgotten about that episode until you reminded me.)


115 posted on 09/24/2007 4:45:35 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I have written and erased several posts.

The fact that you think that Fred is REQUIRED to hunt Dobson down and “seek an audience” with him is really scary. If Dobson wanted to talk to Fred, HE should have contacted him.

I guess Dobson is getting revenge for being “ignored”.

I think DOBSON is in the wrong for gossiping about someone he has never even met. (Referring to the first incident, not the recent one.)


116 posted on 09/24/2007 4:54:19 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: donna
Hardly. King George was, technically speaking, little more than an agent of Parliament ~ English kings had many years before been tamed.

The big tyrant of the age was Louis XIV. The Founding Fathers insulted George (presumably to make him and his friends in Parliament angry, and to make sure they knew they were being insulted) by comparing George to Louis.

Every now and then I post the analysis of the Third, Second and First amendments to show how they were directed toward providing a safe home for Protestantism in America ~ and to do that I have to refer to Huguenot history and experience in France. The Founders knew that history quite well, particularly George Mason who prepared the Bill of Rights.

He was one of the neighbors here in Fairfax County.

117 posted on 09/24/2007 5:08:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: John Leland 1789

You seem very proud of yourself.


118 posted on 09/24/2007 5:17:15 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: muawiyah
George Washington was most certainly was a fundamentalist in the sense that he believed in the biblical identity of Jesus Christ and in the Blood Atonement of Christ. His prayer journals reveal his belief that he considered himself condemned and under judgment were it not for the Redeeming Work of Jesus Christ. Washington believed in the in-errancy of the Scriptures.

In my last post I stated that there has been (especially since the 1960s) and is an effort to rewrite the history of the period of our War for Independence to exclude or marginalize information on the influence of biblicist Christianity on the founding generation of the United States.

Revisionism is very difficult to get away with, however, since there are also well-established organizations that have also, for the past 30 or more years, been compiling whole libraries clearly revealing Christianity’s influence on that period. One such organization is THE FOUNDATION FOR AMERICAN CHRISTIAN EDUCATION (F.A.C.E.) in Chesapeake, Virginia. Anyone can check their web site.

www.face.net

I feel certain that there are many who read and contribute to FR who have already spent some time with F.A.C.E. sources.

There is also another very good source (among dozens), PRAIRIE FIRE PRESS (Stearns-Marshall Publications). There you can order AMERICA IN CRIMSON RED, which covers much of the late 18th Century. There is also a 60 minute, well-documented CD on the relationship between John Leland (with the Virgina Baptists) and James Madison. This is a major factor in the passing of the Bill of Rights. Of course, no government school curriculum is going to present this, and I doubt that most college history courses pay much attention to this anymore. That web site is —

www.21tnt.com/pfp

119 posted on 09/24/2007 5:24:05 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: donna

Thank you for posting the link. It should be instructive to those that missed this in high school history.

For me it is not shocking at all. Much of it I learned in similar history lessons in grade school.

I grew up within walking distance of Mount Vernon during a time when American history was taught by serious teachers with didactic style. Lucky for me but for many years I had thought my instruction was normal and widespread. Hearing of today’s instuction, yes, it is indeed shocking.


120 posted on 09/24/2007 5:26:50 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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