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Russian OS to be installed in every school
Cnews Russian IT-Review ^ | September 14, 2007 | (not given)

Posted on 09/22/2007 2:29:41 PM PDT by dayglored

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So Russian education says "No thanks" to Windows, and chooses to "roll their own", apparently based on Open Source software: the Linux kernel, GNU OS, and FOSS applications.

I'm not surprised, given their experience at the hands of Microsoft and their enforcement arm, the BSA (Business Software Alliance).

It seems to me there are at least two aspects this development.

  1. Russians don't trust Microsoft Windows to meet their educational needs for stability, security, and to be tailored to Russian culture, society, etc. They may have taken one look at Vista and gotten as ill as nearly everyone else has. Russians are notoriously suspicious folks.

  2. Russians have had it up to here with Microsoft's strong-arm tactics fighting piracy. E.g. Recently, a Russian school legally purchased 12 computers that turned out to have illegal copies of Windows pre-installed on them. Instead of going after the manufacturer who installed the pirated OS, the Russian arm of the Microsoft-led BSA took the school's headmaster to court. It escalated to the international level, Putin and Gorbachev got involved, and Bill Gates washed his hands of it, preferring to let the BSA do his dirty work. If you push Russians hard enough, they tell you to go to hell and do it themselves.
Regardless of interpretation, it's an unfortunate loss for Microsoft, which didn't have to be the case. Microsoft could have worked with the Russians as they have with the Chinese and other foreign governments, and offered incentives sufficient to convince them that Windows was still the way to go. (Note that I don't personally approve of that sort of appeasement of Communists at the expense of American consumers. I'm only noting that Microsoft could have done so.)

If this educationally-oriented "Russian OS" is indeed based on the Linux kernel, GNU OS, and other Open Source software, it will also be interesting to see if the Russian developers do as they should, and make their improvements and other code available back to the Open Source community, as prescribed.

1 posted on 09/22/2007 2:29:45 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: dayglored

Liberals never saw that coming.


2 posted on 09/22/2007 2:31:01 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: ShadowAce
Tech ping?

This article is a week old, so I looked for indications that you'd already posted and pinged it, but didn't see anything. Apologies if this is a duplicate post.

3 posted on 09/22/2007 2:31:08 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

I thought Apple had the lead in school computers.


4 posted on 09/22/2007 2:31:46 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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5 posted on 09/22/2007 2:34:13 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Incorrigible

Oh they do. I was setting up a school radio system a few years ago and it was in a rural district. All of the computers at the desks were see-thru Macs (very cool) and wireless I/O.


6 posted on 09/22/2007 2:34:49 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: dayglored

“reduce Russian dependence on foreign software....”

I’d say they are about as nutty as a fruitcake.


7 posted on 09/22/2007 2:35:15 PM PDT by Brilliant
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> I thought Apple had the lead in school computers.

State-side they historically have been more successful in educational areas than Microsoft. But even that tide turned. Apple's making a comeback here, but I don't think their penetration is that good in Russia.

In any case, the vast majority of copies of Windows in Russia are pirated -- it's nearly as bad as in China. I'm sure a lot of those ended up in schools.

8 posted on 09/22/2007 2:35:32 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Windows is pirated everywhere, check the military.


9 posted on 09/22/2007 2:37:31 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Brilliant
> I’d say they are about as nutty as a fruitcake.

I dunno. There are some aspects of rolling one's own that make sense in a society like Russia that is historically suspicious of outsiders. They're not stupid people when it comes to programming, either.

10 posted on 09/22/2007 2:38:11 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Incorrigible

Only in the US I think - certainly here in the UK everything is PCs running Windows, except maybe in the Art departments.


11 posted on 09/22/2007 2:38:13 PM PDT by StevieJ
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To: dayglored

Good! They will lose in the international market for being taught with minor OS that is not used world wide. It will also make it more difficult for the Russian spies to do computer related espionage against US for their inability to operate Windows. Didn’t Argentina attempt to do the same and fail?


12 posted on 09/22/2007 2:39:47 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: dayglored

Maybe it will send data back to the Director Of Impure and Unpatriotic Thoughts so it can be catalouged and thrown into a database to be used to curtail political dissent from students.


13 posted on 09/22/2007 2:40:08 PM PDT by Sawdring
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> Windows is pirated everywhere, check the military.

You mean the Russian military, or the American military? Please don't tell me that our military is running on cracked copies of Windows.

14 posted on 09/22/2007 2:40:20 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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My wife worked with some contract Russian programmers when she worked in GAP Corp IT.
Known as some of the best, albeit least stable, coders around.
Almost as good as the Game guys.
15 posted on 09/22/2007 2:40:23 PM PDT by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: dayglored
My wife worked with some contract Russian programmers when she worked in GAP Corp IT.
Known as some of the best, albeit least stable, coders around.
Almost as good as the Game guys.
16 posted on 09/22/2007 2:40:25 PM PDT by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: StevieJ

When it comes to art and broadcasting related, even the DoD seems to prefer Apple. I’ll admit the strength of Apple in terms of art related.


17 posted on 09/22/2007 2:43:04 PM PDT by Wiz
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> Good! They will lose in the international market for being taught with minor OS that is not used world wide.

Linux is a minor player, but it is international in scope.

> It will also make it more difficult for the Russian spies to do computer related espionage against US for their inability to operate Windows.

On the contrary, most of the malware (viruses, trojans, botnet software) comes from Russia these days. Yes, it's written for Windows, because Windows is such an easy target. Do you think Windows will die out in Russia? Hardly. The Russian government will make sure there are still plenty of spies trained in Windows hacking.

> Didn’t Argentina attempt to do the same and fail?

I don't know about that. Got a link?

18 posted on 09/22/2007 2:44:55 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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> Maybe it will send data back to the Director Of Impure and Unpatriotic Thoughts so it can be catalouged and thrown into a database to be used to curtail political dissent from students.

If the "Russian OS" contains such code, it will be completely obvious, since it's all Open Source. That's the strength of FOSS -- you can see what's going on. It's what makes Linux virtually impossible to target with malware -- it's an open system and every user can see easily what's going on, if they want to.

And if the OS is discovered to contain non-open components, those would immediately raise suspicion, and legions of Russian school children would rise to the challenge of figuring out what's going on.

19 posted on 09/22/2007 2:48:55 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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For those interested, here's a link to an article about the case mentioned in my first comment, about the school getting sued for 12 copies of pirated Windows.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6499843.stm

20 posted on 09/22/2007 2:51:33 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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