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Need help with an Alan Ginsburg quote.

Posted on 09/21/2007 1:23:52 PM PDT by VR-21

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1 posted on 09/21/2007 1:23:53 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: VR-21

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1893554171/


2 posted on 09/21/2007 1:28:10 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: VR-21

I’m certain I checked the “Vanity” box. I don’t know why it came out here. Moderator please change it if you see fit.


3 posted on 09/21/2007 1:28:17 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: VR-21

“Whoever controls the media, the images, controls the culture.”

I’ll look for the reference.


4 posted on 09/21/2007 1:33:10 PM PDT by BGHater (Bread and Circuses)
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To: VR-21

There’s a “vanity” box? I never saw that.

Interesting.


5 posted on 09/21/2007 1:33:27 PM PDT by jdm
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To: VR-21

“We’ll get you through your children”.

It’s in Norman Padhoretz’s book “Ex-Friends” I linked above.


6 posted on 09/21/2007 1:35:49 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: jdm
There’s a “vanity” box? I never saw that.

Powder, lipstick, eyeliner...

7 posted on 09/21/2007 1:35:49 PM PDT by decimon
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To: VR-21

He screamed “We’ll get you through your children!” at Norman Podhoretz. I don’t remember the circumstances, but Norman’s children didn’t go along with Mr. Ginsberg.


8 posted on 09/21/2007 1:36:06 PM PDT by joeystoy
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To: VR-21
"We'll get you through your kids"

Since Allen Ginsberg was a practicing and well-practiced pedophile, I think the quote was probably more like, "We'll get your kids!"

9 posted on 09/21/2007 1:38:08 PM PDT by Jagman (I drank Frank Rabelais under the table!)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Thanks for the link. I just purchased the book, and also “World War IV”.


10 posted on 09/21/2007 1:38:26 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: VR-21

Not to be a pedant, but it’s Allen Ginsburg, not Alan.


11 posted on 09/21/2007 1:40:53 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: jdm
I was referring to the pulldown checklist for "Topics."

I don't post very often.

12 posted on 09/21/2007 1:40:54 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: So Cal Rocket

There’s an interesting clip on YouTube of Jack Kerouac reading from “On the Road” on the old Steve Allen Show. Allen accompanies Kerouac on the piano, noodling some “cool” improv jazz licks.


13 posted on 09/21/2007 1:43:52 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle

Thanks Steve, I appreciate all the help I get.


14 posted on 09/21/2007 1:44:03 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: VR-21
I don't remember the Ginsberg quote, but I do remember this little ditty my Dad recited in honor of such poets:

These backhouse poets, when they die,
deserve erected in the sky,
in memory of their clever wit,
a towering monument made of s***!

15 posted on 09/21/2007 2:05:01 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: VR-21
Not sure about that one, but how about this one:

Whoever controls the media, the images, controls the culture.

16 posted on 09/21/2007 2:10:47 PM PDT by mnehring (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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"Whoever controls the media, the images, controls the culture.

I can't say where that quote is from, but I've often heard "Whoever controls the language controls the culture."

It's usually used in context with the way the left redefines words to make its agenda(s) more palatable to the public. A very good example is the word "choice." A more recent example of leftspeak redefinition is "redeployment."

As to your quote, my first wild guess would be Marshall McLuhan.

17 posted on 09/21/2007 2:34:11 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: Vigilanteman
I remember that rhyme myself.

I think Allen Ginsburg himself qualifies as one of thosen "Towering Monuments."

I must shamefully admit that I read all his books in the 60's.

18 posted on 09/21/2007 2:38:21 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: Steve_Seattle

” Not to be a pedant, but it’s Allen Ginsburg, not Alan.”

Not to be a pedant , but it’s Allen Ginsberg .


19 posted on 09/21/2007 3:20:55 PM PDT by sushiman
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” Since Allen Ginsberg was a practicing and well-practiced pedophile, I think the quote was probably more like, “We’ll get your kids!”

How pray tell do you know this to be a fact ?


20 posted on 09/21/2007 3:32:41 PM PDT by sushiman
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