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To: Captain Kirk; Allegra; ejonesie22; SoldierDad; Petronski; mnehrling
The Kosovo "war" was the Arkansas Antichrist's way of sucking up to the Islamofascisti. While no civilized person would miss Slobodan Milosovich (sp.?), neither were actual American interests at stake in Kosovo. Unless you think oil irrelevant to our society and its strategic interests, your analogy is a complete failure.

Interventionism does not mean that we must attempt to fight every war or to create wars where they are not needed. It means fighting when and where we choose for reasons of our choosing. The utter failure of isolationist paleocowards to distinguish between interventionism and globaloney or globalism or messianic Wilsonism is yet one more reason disqualifying the social misfit movement from any excuse for calling themselves (yourselves) conservative.

PaleoPaulie is an eccentric jerk who would not know American interests if they jumped up and bit him which they will when the caucuses and primaries start. At that point, he and you who support his craven candidacy will surely find out how few actual Republicans and how few actual conservatives support the candidacy of the paleosurrenderman.

Appearing as a multiple visitor on Alex Jones Show will not help him. Nor will the earmarks that he insists be included in appropriations bills to grease his constituents while he poses for fiscal conservative holy pictures voting against the enacted bill. Nor will his filing pro-life bills while denying that the fedgov has any jurisdiction to protect the unborn. Nor will his faux "constitutionalist" act where he favors this policy or that and even files bills but regrets that nothing can be done about whatever because of the constitution. He is a two-faced phony and fraud. After all, he is a "paleowhatever."

While he is not an anti-Semite, he draws them as supporters. His idea of foreign policy is to stand idly by while Ahmanutjob and the Iranian mullahs prepare nuclear weapons to incinerate Israel, an American ally. That is good enough for the actual anti-Semites and skinheads to support him. The latter category is also attracted by the libertoonian vision of a drug intoxicated society which, rightly or wrongly, they and the aging hippie types ascribe to him.

Anti-Wilsonianism???? Maybe that is relevant to paleoworld but not to conservative world. Since conservatives were never Wilsonians (We hate the UN as we hated the League of Nations). Lovers of international diployak was not a description of conservatives of the actual variety. Nixon was NOT a conservative. Nor was Eisenhower. Nor was Feckless Ford. Nor was Bush the Elder. Bush the Younger has had the intestinal fortitude to attack our enemies when they have attacked us. PaleoPaulie wants to hide his feathered head in the sand ostrichstyle like the late and unlamented Eurocoward Neville Chamberlain. PaleoPaulie and his followers are permanently attainted by the stench of surrendermonkeyism. He is not and never will be acceptable as a Republican presidential candidate. Nor are those few who publicly share his views while posing as Republican: UpChuck Hagel, Weepy Walter Jones, John (?) Duncan of Tennessee and a handful of other obsolete war wimps.

Your position seems to be that only Dr. Demento is holding fast to what you hallucinate is the GOP foreign policy dogma but is in reality nothing more than warmed over peacecreepism (Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Jane Fonda posing as Audie Murphy, Harold Moore and Kate Smith does not work) and that 98-99% of the GOP has defected. Talk about the tail (or something in that vicinity) wagging the dog!

Soon enough, paleoPaulie will be back to the Libertoonian Party braying in the wilderness and becoming the Liberty Bell Lemke of our time. Lemke had vocal followers too.

I included the relevant history and left out the usual self-serving Paulistinian lies. A Republican motto for war comes from the late Douglas MacArthur who is rumored to have known a thing or two on the subject: In war, there is no substitute for victory!

A HUMBLE foreign policy????? Does the US have reason to be humble???? If we are humble, how many innocents die while the paleocowardice caucus hang out tut-tutting against, well, violence and being so proud of an American with no more backbone than to sit back and watch the slaughter with equanimity. If paleowhatevers took over our government, would they resurrect Cain to be their Secretary of State or their Defense Secretary???? He was not his brother's keeper either, as you may recall. Any senator of whatever party or whatever philosophical persuasion should be ashamed of any vote to cut off bombing in Kosovo while our troops were in the field. OTOH, the last Guy who was perfect was crucified for his efforts and we are not expecting to see His like again except under truly extraordinary and rather final circumstances, and even then, not likely as a US Senator.

If the GOP has ever been so lacking in imagination and principle as to define its foreign policy (in the formula of limp-wrist antiwar antiAmerican Justin(e) Raimondo and his antiwar.com) as "anti-Wilsonian," rather than favoring genuine human freedom consistent with moral tradition, it should not so defined its foreign policy. We can ill afford a policy of sitting back and waiting to be attacked AGAIN by the Islamofascist enemies of our nation. Destroy their movement in its crib by PREVENTIVE WAR as necessary to protect the USA from the consequences of allowing Islamofascist A Bombs.

I came on board as a Republican when I was a teenager in 1963 or 1964 in response to the decidedly interventionist Goldwater campaign. That was the year when the Northeastern money obsessives lost control of the national GOP. It turned out that Goldwater was up to his eye balls in Planned Barrenhood and support for homosexuality and abortion. In those respects, he was no better than the northeastern liberals whom he had toppled. We then continued on to Ronaldus Maximus with Goldwater playing dog in the manger all the way (with due apologies to man's best friend).

We ain't going back. We are also not credentialing or including the social misfits and ideological eccentrics who are the lesser (pseudoRepublican) wing of paleoPaulie's supporters and we are not ignoring the fact that he draws heavily upon the pro-drug, antiwar left for supporters. You folks can pose as you wish but you cannot extinguish the sad reality of this silly "paleo" movement and its sillier candidate. Not only will your pathetic candidate NOT be nominated, much less elected, but he won't be taken seriously by the overwhelming majority of Republicans because we know better than to buy his pro-Al Qaeda snake oil. He remains a "funny uncle."

Oh, and because actual conservatives do not share your eccentric reading of history, does not mean that we are "revising" history, quite the contrary.

538 posted on 09/22/2007 12:05:37 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

I have one simple respone to your post;

Ditto...

(we are revising history, riiiight...)


540 posted on 09/22/2007 12:16:38 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: BlackElk
I’ll take eJonesie22’s Ditto and Double Ditto that.
If you ever are in East Texas, I owe you several beers for that one.
552 posted on 09/22/2007 3:23:45 PM PDT by mnehring (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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