Message from Ron Paul

Ron Paul 2008 ^ | 09/20/2007 | Ron Paul

[Designer]

"..we do not need any more RINOS.."

O.K., try telling that to the Rudy supporters.

[DoughtyOne]

I just did. They’ll be by.

I don’t dislike Rudy. I think he did a fine job in support of the 09/11 victims families. I appreciate that.

Still, he’s not what I want for a president. He doesn’t understand many of the conservative tenets. He’s just not qualified to lead the charge we need to make, to correct the course of this nation.

This shouldn’t be taken as a Rudy bashing moment. It’s just a reality moment.

[Designer]

"This shouldn’t be taken as a Rudy bashing moment. It’s just a reality moment."

No truer words were ever spoken.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks. That was nice of you. Take care.

[ROTB]

> Are you sure Ron Paul and his Paultards are on board with
>this “Nuke Mecca” idea?

No. I know that any “front-runner” will simply be a rich person, who chased money their whole life, who doesn’t hate evil at all, and will sell us out (border open, deficit spending, etc...)

I’d rather have a patriot (Hunter, Paul, Tancredo), than a millionaire sellout like all since Kennedy.

[ROTB]

Not really. Many were disillusioned when “Baghdad Bob” turned out to be a bold faced liar. Destroying what the Koran says will stand forever will destroy the faith.

That’s why they hate Israel so much:

1) the Bible says the Jews will return to Israel
2) the Koran says nothing about the Jews returning to Israel

Israel’s presence invalidates the Koran, and validates the Bible. It’s a great witnessing tool.

Nuking Mecca would not make us a pariah nation after “another 9/11”

[DoughtyOne]

Okay. Let’s say we do nuke Mecca. Just hypothetically speaking, if it doesn’t work, then what?

[ROTB]

>Okay. Let’s say we do nuke Mecca. Just hypothetically
>speaking, if it doesn’t work, then what?

“Political Correctness” should have died on 9/11. The charge of treason would be taken seriously, and Muslims given the boot from the country. (They’re here to subvert the established order (the Constitution) for Sharia Law right?) Thus:

1) we wouldn’t need government spying to keep them in check
2) we wouldn’t have another 9/11

Please re-read my tagline. The Constitution works when God fearing Christians are “rendering to Caesar what is Caesar’s...”, and that’s not what Islam is about. Islam is not peace, it’s subversion.

“Men will live under God, or they will live under tyrants”

Importing Muslims “by the gross” just pushes us closer to tyranny.

Playing “Masters of the Universe” sure is fun, eh? ;)

[DoughtyOne]

Okay. Let’s say we do nuke Mecca. Just hypothetically speaking, if it doesn’t work, then what?

“Political Correctness” should have died on 9/11. The charge of treason would be taken seriously, and Muslims given the boot from the country. (They’re here to subvert the established order (the Constitution) for Sharia Law right?) Thus:

1) we wouldn’t need government spying to keep them in check
2) we wouldn’t have another 9/11

You're probably not going to get a much more sympathetic ear on this subject.  That being said, I don't think it would ever be a good idea to round up people and deport them in mass.  Even my fervent anti-illegal immigration stance encompases eliminatimg incentives here, as the best way to repatriate them.  I do think it is proper to raid businesses that hire illegals though.  Then as other illegals come into contact with the law, they would be deported also until few were left.

I would prefer monetary incentives to get Middle-Eastern people to return to the Middle-East.  I would close down all immigration from Muslim nations until they demonstrated the ability to live in peace and not demand others change to their customs.  Even then, I'd cut the numbers to ten percent of what immigration from other nations was.   I would put an end to Muslim schools.  I would put a freeze on new Mosques.  When Mosques became empty, I would raze them to the ground.

Anyone making public demands that U.S. concerns change in order to meet Muslim demands, would be deported immediately.

Please re-read my tagline. The Constitution works when God fearing Christians are “rendering to Caesar what is Caesar’s...”, and that’s not what Islam is about. Islam is not peace, it’s subversion.

I agree with this.

“Men will live under God, or they will live under tyrants”

Can't argue with this either.

Importing Muslims “by the gross” just pushes us closer to tyranny.

This has been my perception for some time.

Playing “Masters of the Universe” sure is fun, eh? ;)

;-)

I know the Paul folks don't like our war in Iraq.  I very much disagree.  Either we are going to be the hegemon of the world, or someone else will be.  I don't like the players that would love to take our place.

A Mecca level act is not out of the question in my eyes, but it is way down the line of preferred actions.  It's an option of last resort for me.  What happened in New York was terrible.  It still doesn't reach the level of hundreds of thousands or millions dying.  It seems to me a seminole event should precede taking out Mecca.

When the time comes, it should be publicly stated why this was going to happen.  I would site the escalation of attacks going back fifty years to the present.  I would remind folks that we had tried everything else to open they eyes of those who hate us.  It should be stated that we are a patient people, but that we are not going to stand by and watch our nation destroyed in the name of any religion.  Then I'd state what was going to happen, and what would take place if another event were to take place after that.  City by city, the great cities of the Moslem Middle-East would cease to exist.

I'd announce each one in advance.  Then I'd take the specified action at the specified time.  Holy cities would continue to cease to exist until reason could be restored among the Muslims.

[Designer]

"Okay. Let’s say we do nuke Mecca. Just hypothetically.."

Just hypothetically, of course.

For one thing, they could all have a little piece of it. No more need to face any certain direction anymore.

Great time-saver!

[hedgetrimmer]

Appease, Appease, Appease

See, you're all mixed up. That's what Clinton and Bush did with Arafat. It's what Bush is doing with Kim Jong Il.

[chesty_puller]

Our American way of life is under attack. And it is up to us to save it. run like cowards.

That's better.

[John D]

It is all that cut and run wants to do. Appease the terrorists and blame America when they still attack us.

[hedgetrimmer]

I’m telling you that is exactly what the current administration is doing.

And if they wanted to go after the terrorists, why did they OK the Saudi purchase of the Carlyle group and 20% of the NASDAQ? Because EVERYONE knows the Saudis fund international terrorists, EVERYONE knows that. So making them wealthier so they can fund more terrorists, and have control of our economy is fighting terrorists?

Open your eyes, sir. The traitors and anti-Americans are running the government RIGHT NOW.