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Dobson Says He Won't Support Thompson
AP ^ | 9/19/07 | Erik Gorski

Posted on 09/19/2007 7:14:10 PM PDT by pissant

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To: mek1959
I’ll hold my nose and vote for any of the current crop, as will most social conservatives.

You're living in a fantasy world if you think that is true of social conservatives when it comes to someone like Giuliani.

481 posted on 09/20/2007 12:00:30 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: MissouriConservative
You cannot force your morality on someone just because you’re a a majority. For the day will come when you’re not a majority and then you’ve set the standard to have someone else’s morality forced on you.

The day has come, only it is the minorities and the special interests who are using the courts to force their agenda on the majority, and especially on children. The homosexuals, feminists and atheists are having a field day with the force of law against all believers. Where have you been?

482 posted on 09/20/2007 12:01:27 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Serious question: Would they cast their vote against Hillary? That is to say, they’d go with Rudy if it looked like Hillary was a winner?


483 posted on 09/20/2007 12:02:36 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Reagan79
Well McCain actually has a more conservative voting record.

He most certainly doesn't have a more conservative voting record than Thompson. Thompson has the higher ACU rating.

484 posted on 09/20/2007 12:03:06 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: MissouriConservative
Thankfully, our Founders based their ideas for laws on the Bible and didn't take your advice.

The LAW defines what is right and wrong in a society. And, the stronger the law, the more the deterrent.

485 posted on 09/20/2007 12:07:47 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Lancey Howard
My occasional readings about Dobson here at FR have somtimes left me with the impression that Dobson has tried to bloat himself up as a kingmaker for the GOP. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but that’s the way it sounds.

Dobson's a good and decent man of faith by most accounts--certainly not a man seeking to feed his ego. I've never encountered anyone who knows the man who says an unkind word about him. It's just my two cents, of course, but I think he's a sincere man of faith, a genuine patriot, who follows his Christian conscience to the best of his ability. Sometimes that conscience leads him to express unpopular, impolitic opinions on establishment policies and candidates. He's driven me batty through the years at different times, but I believe he's utterly sincere. He's more concerned about the opinion of God than his fellow man.

486 posted on 09/20/2007 12:11:25 AM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: Squidpup
think Dr. Dobson is mistaken in his criticism of Fred and should be using his influence to help him - like how about a private meeting to discuss the issues of concern and share the gospel, rather than alienating? All in all Fred is solid down the line on all issues of concern to this social conservative Christian voting for a President not a preacher. If Dobson has a problem with the Federal Marriage Act vs. Federalism, that is worth a discussion. Fred will need all the prayers and wisdom he can get

This is excellent and wise advise. Dobson and Billy Graham are not truly comparable because Graham was a theologist and preacher, but Dobson is not a pastor, he is a child psychologist who is also an evangelical Christian. He doesn't even seem to have adults figured out, IMHO. I find him grating and stubborn in his retro mannerisms. That said, he has been an invaluable leader and galvanizer of Christians to take an interest in their political fate. His Citizen magazine is a terrific resource.

487 posted on 09/20/2007 12:29:21 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: RockinRight; Scotswife
I really don’t get the Dole comparison. Dole never spoke of any of the things Fred has in the same no-nonsense manner. If you mean both are “old” fine. Although Fred’s no older than Rudy or Mitt really. A couple years, big deal.

And let's not forget, Ronald Reagan was nearly 70 when he ran for office and held office for 8 years. Fred is 66. Ron Paul is 72. McCain is 71. Giuliani is 63. Romney is 60. Hunter is 59. Huckabee is 52. Hillary will be 60 in October (Scorpio, not Libra).

488 posted on 09/20/2007 12:41:09 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: papasmurf
VERY well said.

Thanks. And I like Jim Dobson, but no earthly government is a means to advance the kingdom of God. If someone tries, they'll bring all the same problems that immanentizing the eschaton has brought for all the other totalists out there, including the Muslims.
489 posted on 09/20/2007 1:06:25 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: wardaddy
My favorite thing on Dobson is that he believes in discipline.... I think he lives in California actually...

Focus on the Family is headquartered in Colorado Springs, CO.

490 posted on 09/20/2007 1:20:16 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde

Fred just turned 65, not 66.


491 posted on 09/20/2007 1:58:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: LdSentinal
Figures he’s going for McCain. I thought it said he would NOT support McCain.
492 posted on 09/20/2007 2:04:06 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a MAN that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God:)
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To: Timbo64
Still, I wish that Dr. Dobson would STFU! There are many Republicans that do not care about his opinions.

I don't know of too many Republicans that have a problem with a man exercising his free speech rights in sending out his opinion in an email. (aside from some unreasonable people on this thread)
493 posted on 09/20/2007 2:39:35 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: pissant

“Now he’s apparently pro-life. Just not enough to criminalize it in the first trimester or support a constitutional amendment to end it.”

A position that’s a little too ‘convenient’, but I hear all that matters is that he might win over some of the middle of the roaders. Then again, so will the RHINOs.


494 posted on 09/20/2007 2:47:55 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (INVEST IN THE FUTURE - DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....(NO MORE CFRers))
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To: altura

“I wonder who Dobson thinks he can find to support.”

Maybe he’ll put his support behind Duncan Hunter. I doubt Fred much cares if Dobson doesn’t endorse him, probably sees the backing of such an organization as the ‘kiss of death’ to winning over the middle of the roaders.

Ah well, he’s got the endorsement of pro-amnesty, OBLer George P. Bush. GPB must see something worthwhile in Fred’s agenda.


495 posted on 09/20/2007 3:00:06 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (INVEST IN THE FUTURE - DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....(NO MORE CFRers))
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To: pissant

I wonder if Jim would vote for a twice married former hollywood “B” movie actor and former union president who, as governor of California, signed into law a sweeping abortion-on-demand bill?


496 posted on 09/20/2007 3:09:59 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: pissant

It is just way too early for Dobson to be sounding off like this....Dobson is so smart, this move is surprising, must be some hokie leak from the Rudy McRomney hacks....stay tune..Dobson will be clarifying tomorrow...


497 posted on 09/20/2007 3:33:11 AM PDT by Fred ("What is it that makes liberals think the best way to help someone is to punish them" FDT)
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To: wardaddy
I agree with everything you said. I too am concerned for our future and am not optimistic about it either. It is especially bothersome to me to see how many so called conservatives on this forum talk like a liberal leftist. There does indeed seem to be fewer of us social conservatives than there used to be, even here on FR. Who would have thought?
498 posted on 09/20/2007 3:50:03 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Fred
I too am bothered by James Dobson’s comments, but I don’t think he will be retracting his comments any time soon. He has pretty much said the same thing several months ago before Fred announced his candidacy. I think if Fred gets the nomination Dobson will endorse him, but he isn’t going to support him in the primaries. My guess is he’ll support Huckabee (ordained minister) or Hunter in the primaries. JMHO.
499 posted on 09/20/2007 4:04:11 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: eastsider

“Don’t worry, B16’s agenda doesn’t include Duncan Hunter ...”

No, the pope’s public agenda never includes public endorsements of presidential candidates. However, I am certain the pope’s private prayers are very focused on people of good will electing principled leaders who value and defend human life. All rights begin with life.

Therefore, Duncan Hunter, a solid, consistent defender of innocent human life would be indirectly on the Pope’s agenda and in his prayers.

www.gohunter08.com


500 posted on 09/20/2007 4:08:37 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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