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Dobson Says He Won't Support Thompson
AP ^ | 9/19/07 | Erik Gorski

Posted on 09/19/2007 7:14:10 PM PDT by pissant

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To: pissant
Dobson may have decided Fred isn't Godly enough for him, but David Brody from CBN seems to like his message:

Will Thompson’s “First Principles” Win the Day

David Brody

On the campaign trail, Fred Thompson talks a lot about “first principles”. This is the core of it right here:

“In 1994 when I first ran, I advocated the same common sense conservative positions that I hold today. They are based upon what I believe to be sound conservative First Principles -- reflecting the nature of man and the wisdom of the ages. They are based upon the conviction that our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution are not outdated documents that have outlived their usefulness. It is a recognition that our basic rights come from God and not from government. That government should have its power divided, not only at the federal level but between the federal government and the states. Federalism is the belief that not every problem should have a federal solution. Essentially it's about freedom. A government that is big enough to do everything for us is powerful enough to do anything to us.”
Rewind 25 years. This was Ronald Reagan in 1981: (see the bolded words)
“We've gone astray from first principles. We've lost sight of the rule that individual freedom and ingenuity are at the very core of everything that we've accomplished. Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.”.
This was Reagan in his 1989 farewell Speech:
“As long as we remember our first principles and believe in ourselves, the future will always be ours.”
And then Reagan in 1993:
“Presidents come and go. History comes and goes, but principles endure...”
Folks, this is pretty simple. Mitt Romney may have more detailed white papers, Rudy Giuliani has his well laid out twelve commitments and those strategies seem to be working well for those campaigns. But Fred Thompson is going in another direction. He’s not going to compete with them on who has more 10 point plans on every issue. He’s going to attempt to do what Ronald Reagan did. The philosophy here is that when you’re President, circumstances may change but your principles must not.

Thompson believes there’s an opening to differentiate himself here by essentially saying “Here are my principles and I’ll be consistent by in making every decision based on them.” It could very well position Thompson above the rest of the candidates as someone who is talking more about broad themes and vision rather than policy wonk talk. Reagan had an ability to do this and communicate it well and connect with voters. Thompson seems like he has that ability too. Someone who can speak the language of voters, come across as sincere and stick to conservative principles.

Remember, at the end of the day, the person with the most ideas doesn’t necessarily win. The smartest person in the room doesn’t either. It’s the person who connects emotionally with voters. That usually makes the difference. Sometimes we in the media over think it and it’s actually rather simple. Maybe Thompson’s first principles will resonate with America. It reminds me a little of “School House Rock.” Remember those cartoons from the 1970s? Maybe the Thompson campaign should cue up this clip and insert their own words. Click here.




441 posted on 09/19/2007 10:46:10 PM PDT by jellybean (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=dailyfread Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Reagan Man
I've met James Dobson and he is a good man. Even good men make mistakes.

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Like you, I believe Dobson is a good man, even a great man, but he has made big mistakes like all of us. He supported Harriet Myers (SP) for the supreme court. What a loss if we had ended up with her instead of John Roberts.

Godpeed,

442 posted on 09/19/2007 10:46:43 PM PDT by thedilg (1)
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To: pissant; Duncan Hunter; Duncan Hunter Ambassador

Dobson accuses the former Tennessee senator and actor of being weak on the campaign trail and wrong on issues dear to social conservatives
***Duncan Hunter has a fire in the belly. If he would invite Dobson on the ticket as VP, he’d get the name recognition he deserves. That’d energize the base.


443 posted on 09/19/2007 10:47:56 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: jellybean
Exactly right on dude. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
444 posted on 09/19/2007 10:48:24 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: antidisestablishment

The entire social welfare problem stems from the church to begin with! If the church hadn’t abdicated her responsibilities, the country wouldn’t be in such shape!””

Finally something we can agree upon. During a recent bible study at our church I developed a discussion on whether or not the problems of the world today are the result of the church not doing its duty to be salt and light. The talk was basically that, yes, the church got fat happy and content and pulled its head in like a turtle during the latter half of the 1950s and early 1960s. But part of the problem tends to be that the church didn’t fight for the hearts of the people. They didn’t grow a generation of righteous kids....instead they abandoned their duties and look what has happened. The problem is not laws, we have plenty of those, the problem lies in the culture...that is where the real battle is being fought. If you win that battle, you win the war. As the culture goes, so goes the nations laws. If you have a culture that is polar opposite of the laws, you have problems. We see it today. We have a permissive culture, anything goes. Say you pass a law banning homosexual marriage....it would not last because of the culture. Change the culture, you change the laws.

Make sense?


445 posted on 09/19/2007 10:51:01 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (We accommodate other cultures at the expense of ours.)
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To: restornu

No, I’m not “begotten” from the Father. Only Jesus is. I’m “adopted.” Big difference.

Lucifer is an angel. Again, he is not “begotten.”

Your doctrine, sorry to say, is a mess. Totally unbiblical. Study Scripture and you’ll see for yourself. Joseph and his writings are fiction.


446 posted on 09/19/2007 10:51:12 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Petronski

They usually have a reception following the Temple wedding where everyone has a lot of fun. I’ve been to a few of those and had a blast. No one gets drunk and there’s dancing.

I have never attended a Temple wedding. I hear it’s absolutely holy. It’s not an earthly ordinance. There’s nothing “creepy” about the Temple.

I just remembered something really creepy. When I got married the first time - in a Catholic Church if you can believe it - my mother said she would not attend if my father brought his new wife. Now that’s creepy.

My second marriage, we got married in Reno. That’s kind of creepy too, now that I think of it.

My third and LAST husband - we were married in Mayor Autry’s campaign headquarters right after he won (Fresno).

We hope to be sealed in the Temple some day.

I bet you thought Mormons were better than me, huh?


447 posted on 09/19/2007 10:51:52 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: Theo; restornu

I am an adopted Jew, grafted in. Yahoo!


448 posted on 09/19/2007 10:53:00 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: restornu

There you go again — attacking me rather than my arguments. That’s a clear sign that your doctrine is so unstable, so ridiculous and indefensible that you have to attack the person presenting truth.

Again, Joseph Smith, as all Christians know, fabricated the entire Mormon story, telling people that he got it by looking at rocks placed in a hat, and that those rocks magically translated Egyptian gold tablets into English. Examine the foundation of your faith, restornu. For yourself. Don’t turn to other Mormons. Examine it between you and the Creator. You’ll find that Joseph was a liar, and that the pure truth of Scripture has remained true.


449 posted on 09/19/2007 10:54:09 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: pissant

Thank God Fred won’t be tainted with Dobson’s stain!
I think conservative Christians can and do make up their own minds on whom to support without someone like Dobson dictating it to them.
Dobson only exists so the MSM can say “look, evangelicals are mindless followers who can’t think for themselves!”


450 posted on 09/19/2007 10:57:27 PM PDT by counterpunch (Ron Paul is gearing up to be Hillary Clinton's Ross Perot.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Then you deny the doctrine of the Trinity? Who was speaking when God said, “Let US make man in OUR image,” then? A God who was somehow enjoying fellowship, who was enjoying community, who had no *need* of additional fellowship (e.g., humans or angels), but for His glory created us nonetheless.

If you want to make such a big deal out of the doctrine of the Trinity apparently not being identified until 400 AD, why insist that the doctrines introduced by Joseph Smith much later *are* true?

Yes, you are ashamed of the pure gospel of Jesus Christ. And so you have to *add* something — the fiction that Joseph Smith introduced in the book he conceived.

Again, I ask: Where are those gold plates, and who has recently translated them into English? Tell me that. Where are those plates? Who else has translated them?

You can’t tell me, because it’s all fiction. An invention from a clever and deceptive and twisted mind.


451 posted on 09/19/2007 10:58:40 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: TYVets

Dobson is not “one of those radio evangelists.” Dobson is ... Dobson.

Again, I ask you — do follow the money. Tell me where it leads.


452 posted on 09/19/2007 10:59:26 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: restornu

That was a nice long response. But you didn’t answer my question: Where are the golden plates, and who else has translated them?

I’ll give you a hint: The answer isn’t in the back of your book. Because there’s no credible answer. Wrestle with that question: Where are the ancient documents supporting the Book of Mormon? Where are the plates and who else has translated them? If you don’t have an answer, please consider that the very foundation of the Mormon religion is false.


453 posted on 09/19/2007 11:02:03 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Theo
I was told as I was growing up - and even in my adulthood - from various pulpits and venues that Joseph Smith was a con man, liar, deceiver, etc., etc. I was taught that if Mormon missionaries came to my door to not let them in but rather to slam the door. I was never rude to the Missionaries (thank God!) but I thought they were deceived fools.

Then one day, I found out they believe that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. I thought they thought Joseph Smith was the Savior. I discovered that the Church needed to be restored on the earth, that the authority and keys needed to be put into place. It all made sense and the Holy Ghost tells me it’s True.

If you don’t believe it, that’s OK, but let me practice my faith without hindrance.

454 posted on 09/19/2007 11:02:35 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: Theo

It’s not nice to question someone else’s religion.


455 posted on 09/19/2007 11:03:06 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Petronski

How dense are you? This is what you wrote in comment #120:

“The day I vote the way Dobson dictates is the day after Earth collides with the Sun.”

You are indicating that Dobson is “dictating” something now, and that the day you observe how he is “dictating” is the day the Earth collides with the Sun.

Give it up. I don’t know why you’re making such a big deal out of this. You used the term “dictates” — I was simply pointing out that you used the term “dictates.” Goodness.


456 posted on 09/19/2007 11:04:31 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: durasell

The struggle for truth isn’t always nice. Do you not care about truth? What say you: Are Satan and Jesus brothers? Was Joseph Smith a prophet, who was chosen to introduce a new gospel? Did Joseph Smith “translate” some Egyptian golden plates into English using some rocks placed into a hat?

My religion challenges me to pursue truth, and to promote truth. By your own statement, then, it’s wrong for you to question my religious convictions.


457 posted on 09/19/2007 11:07:09 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Petronski
Non-Mormon parents can’t attend their child’s Temple wedding? That’s creepy.

Non-worthy parents, Mormon or non-Mormon, can't enter the Temple. There is no "wedding" in the Temple, there is a very simple, understated, and brief Sealing ceremony. The Sealing rooms don't hold very many people. Some hold a dozen, some about two dozen at the largest. The Sealing is nothing like a large, traditional wedding that you may be thinking of.

Here's a photo from the LDS Church of one of the Sealing Rooms in the Santiago, Chile Temple.

There's nothing "creepy" about it. Was it "creepy" when the ancient Jews constructed their Tabernacle in the wilderness and limited entry therein? Was it "creepy" when the ancient Jews similarly used Solomon's Temple? Jesus Christ was a Jew and worshipped, taught, etc. in the Temple in Jerusalem. Nothing creepy about it. Entry was limited, especially within the inner walls and the Holy of Holies. Again, nothing creepy about it.

458 posted on 09/19/2007 11:08:27 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: MissouriConservative

Great post!


459 posted on 09/19/2007 11:08:35 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Of course Mormon doctrine doesn’t say JS is “the Savior of the world.” That’s a Straw Man.

Your problem is that you believe that the Church needed to be “restored” on the earth be the introduction of a set of new writings, writings that JS supposedly translated from some golden Egyptian plates, using some rocks and a hat, that nobody else has had an opportunity to translate.

Tell me: Why is nobody allowed to translate those plates? Why? Because they’re Egyptian, not ancient Hebrew, and because they’d prove to be the downfall of the Mormon faith.

Address my points; please don’t attack me or set up another Straw Man.


460 posted on 09/19/2007 11:10:38 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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