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Dobson Says He Won't Support Thompson
AP ^ | 9/19/07 | Erik Gorski

Posted on 09/19/2007 7:14:10 PM PDT by pissant

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To: wardaddy

If you really wrap your mind around the worldview that the Columbia students have, that considers a sort of juvenile perspective of homosexuality from Ahminidjad to be the most contemptible thing about him . . . it ends up being scary, as well as sad, since these are American college students. They are part of our countries future.


1,181 posted on 09/25/2007 5:27:30 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: harrowup

LOL

Agree with your tagline, btw


1,182 posted on 09/25/2007 5:33:04 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: pissant

Seems like it become a discussion on Mormonism. Certainly not my intent.
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This thread is like Mormon catnip. It offers the choice to talk down a competitor to Romney in Fred Thompson AND a chance to talk badly about evangelical Christians. A twofer, too good to be resisted!


1,183 posted on 09/25/2007 5:39:30 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F

Very well, carry on!


1,184 posted on 09/25/2007 6:47:48 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: TYVets

We have one of those radio evangelists in our family,,,

The best description:

Greedy!
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Yah, it’s always the thing to do with internet, TV and radio ministries to check into their finances before you devote time to listening to them or donate money. I checked into Dobson because of this thread. He doesn’t even take a salary from Focus on the Family. It was the same with Pastor James Kennedy — he tithed to his church but took no salary — so he paid his church in essence to be thier pastor. I’m not an easy mark, and so I usually don’t get suckered by the TV ministry phonies, but I did spend a few hours listening to one television ministry and then when I looked at the finances it was several hundred thousand dollars to the head of the ministry, half a million to their spouse, plus the income from books and other interests. That’s bogus and I stopped listening because I couldn’t trust them any longer . . . Dobson is not greedy. He could easily take a salary from Focus on the Family and no one would question it if it were reasonable. He doesn’t.


1,185 posted on 09/25/2007 3:06:58 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: ansel12

True.


1,186 posted on 09/25/2007 3:08:37 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: ckilmer
Afterward Dobson came out with his anti Guiliani position...Guiliani’s people got together with social conservatives and hammered out a to do list that Guiliani agreed to on the appointment of strict constructionalist judges. that mollified social conservatives.

Do you think this was a direct response to Dobson? If so, that's a good thing that Dobson did there.

1,187 posted on 09/25/2007 3:10:03 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: pissant

Very well, carry on!
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Heh, I’m actually trying to read this entire thread. I’ve never actually got through one of these mega threads before. I’m at 450 or so out of the 1200.


1,188 posted on 09/25/2007 3:12:06 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Xenophon450; Saundra Duffy; greyfoxx39

I do not claim to be right but how would you explain this...

26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness..”

However in the very next verse...

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.


That’s a darn good point! I’d never noticed that the next verse is singular. Only the trinity, or something like the trinity, seems to make sense putting the two verses together, Genesis 1:26 - 1:27, since one is plural and one is singular.


1,189 posted on 09/25/2007 3:19:29 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: ran20

I think the most conservative candidate for President almost always wins. I’ve only seen it fail once in my lifetime, Jimmy Carter defeating Gerald Ford, and that was after Watergate. And no, I’m not forgetting Bush 1 vs. Clinton. I think a lot of people thought Clinton was just as conservative as Bush after Bush raised taxes and sort of cancelled the Reagan revolution.


1,190 posted on 09/25/2007 3:24:34 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan
Tough words from Dr. Dobson. I respect him alot. I’ll bet he will endorse Huckabee.

He's said that he will not support Thompson, Guilianni, or McCain? So that leaves Huckabee, Romney, Hunter, Tancredo, Brownback for endorsement in the primaries. I hope he chooses to say something good about Hunter. He should . . . heck . . . everyone should!

1,191 posted on 09/25/2007 3:32:22 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: antidisestablishment; MissouriConservative
I don't want to impugn your ministry, but we are all content to just treat the symptoms. The entire social welfare problem stems from the church to begin with! If the church hadn't abdicated her responsibilities, the country wouldn't be in such shape!

Antidisestablishment, I think you've got this backwards. I think that heavy taxation has crowded out a lot of charitable giving, including giving that would have gone to the churches, and that the government programs have crowded out church programs.

1,192 posted on 09/25/2007 3:38:50 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Lancey Howard
My occasional readings about Dobson here at FR have sometimes left me with the impression that Dobson has tried to bloat himself up as a kingmaker for the GOP. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but that’s the way it sounds.

I think that's because there is a big group of FReepers that couldn't care less about Dobson's ministry other than its impact on general politics. Their attitude is essentially "so he helps kids and families, I disagree with him on Fred Thompson so he's a jerk!" That ignores the reflexive anti-Christian attacks of some others!

1,193 posted on 09/25/2007 3:59:45 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: restornu
I just couldn't let this absurdity pass:

"If you only had one in the Godhead the Jewish people would not have disputed with Jesus!" restornu

Do you know why Caiaphas condemned Jesus? Because Caiaphas believed Jesus had claimed to be 'Son of Man' in the flesh and the Jews believe God is One, Son of Man will be Messiah God, so Caiaphas believed Jesus had committed blasphemy to claim to be God!

Your constant posting of Bible verses and pieces of Bible verses without comprehending what you post or why taking the pieces out of context is foolishness appears that you are ever learning and never coming to a knowledge of Jesus Christ, resty.

1,194 posted on 09/25/2007 4:05:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: aruanan
And I like Jim Dobson, but no earthly government is a means to advance the kingdom of God. If someone tries, they'll bring all the same problems that immanentizing the eschaton has brought for all the other totalists out there, including the Muslims.

You deserve some sort of award! You are the first person I've ever seen use "immanentize the eschaton" in an ordinary sentence, with its proper and natural meaning, and not done tongue in cheek! Congratulations!

1,195 posted on 09/25/2007 4:11:59 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Guenevere; 2ndDivisionVet

I saw your earlier post Guenevere . . . the thread pushed 1200 posts ultimately, so I’d say that Dobson is relevant . . .


1,196 posted on 09/25/2007 4:17:06 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
Social and fiscal conservatives are battling with bluebloods for control of the party. Dobson didn’t have to tell people to stay home. Many people stayed home because they are sick of the party’s elite choosing lukewarm candidates for us.

It's a good point that you make about the elite's always choosing for us lukewarm candidates that don't have a firm belief in what is right and what is wrong. It's very different than the Adams, Madisons, and Jeffersons in our nation's early years.

1,197 posted on 09/25/2007 4:19:52 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F
You deserve some sort of award! You are the first person I've ever seen use "immanentize the eschaton" in an ordinary sentence, with its proper and natural meaning, and not done tongue in cheek! Congratulations!

Ha ha. Thanks. I try to use it that way at least once a year.
1,198 posted on 09/25/2007 4:28:57 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: kevkrom

It’s a good analysis of Hunter’s campaign, that since his a congressman he needed to run an unconventional campaign to have a chance at the nomination. He has not shown any flair in campaigning and grabbing the spotlight. He’s a great looking guy, very articulate, probably the most versed on the issues, right from a conservative perspective on every issue, the main issues he focuses on (defense, the border and trade) are in the news constantly now . . . but he hasn’t been innovative in his campaign . . . and you are right he needs to be. It frustrated me when Huckabee “accepted” Thompson’s “offer” to do a Lincoln-Douglas debate, because even though it was a long shot, it was no lose and if Thompson had accepted it would have launched Huckabee potentially into the first tier. Hunter should have thought of it (I did when I heard Thompson blithering about Lincoln-Douglas debates on Leno.

I support Hunter in the hopes that lightning strikes, because he is young enough to run again, and because he is the best candidate.


1,199 posted on 09/25/2007 4:33:01 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: TYVets; Theo

I agree with Theo regarding the context of “judge not” . . . a few lines down in Matthew 7 is “neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you” . . . very judgemental since you have to judge people “swine” to avoid being rended. How do you reconcile the two? I have, but have you thought them through? If not, I’d recommend the exercise. Sorry to be so zen in approach with this but given the online, message board context, it’s probably better for you to think it through . . .


1,200 posted on 09/25/2007 5:51:31 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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