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I suppose this is meant to be reassuring.
Recall, much of Indonesia is barely a century beyond customary head-hunting and reportedly, cannibalism.
Place could get out of hand fast.
Recall, much of Indonesia is barely a century beyond customary head-hunting and reportedly, cannibalism.
Place could get out of hand fast.
Sharia law is a complete negation of hundreds of years development of principles and practice supporting modern representative government. Serious Islamic thought only allows for a brief period of cooperation with democratic forms of goverment before submerging it.
Do you masticate your food?
yes or no?!
This Tahrir group is gaining ascendency rapidly. Do not forget the Muslim Brotherhood, a recent topic in posts on FR. Here is a Swedish relalted comment by Fjordman on the threat and inroads MB has made in Sweden..it is well established in over 70 countries...http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2490
This link is for the first of a four part series (the 4th part deals with the growth of Hizb ut-Tahrir in the US and why it should be banned here. Read all four parts..here is the link for the first part: http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php?id=1345561
Our common future is hopefully one in which all religious communities will live side by side in peace.
Excuse me? WHO do you think you are fooling Fachrizal Halim? Your "Islamic law" specifically prohibits this co existence with "Infidels" or pagans. Give the radically secularist nature of most of Europe and the USA, there can be no peaceful coexistence with a "caliphate" and us under the very law YOU are supposedly an expert on.
There are two chances of Indonesia turning into an Islamic Caliphate; a dog’s chance and no chance, and the dog just died.
There was a hullabulloo on the web about this HIB rally in Jakarta but 95% of Indonesians were blissfully unaware that it took place, I was in Jakarta that day and the first I heard about it was when the BBC led with it on their bulletin that night.
HIB wanted 100 000 people to gather at the stadium, there are 240 million Indonesians, 90% of whom are Muslims, how many showed up? 70 000 and 80% of them were middle aged housewives who wanted to see their favourite folksy imam who used to have a regular Sunday afternoon tv slot before he was dropped for taking on a second wife. Where were the men? Well there were a couple of big soccer matches in town that day and Indonesian men have a lot more sense than their wives when it comes to spending Sunday afternoons.
Of the leading speakers planned for the event, seven didn’t show up because they were refused entry by the Indonesian government, given that some of these speakers were British and Aussie it reflects well on the Indonesians’ ability to control their own borders compared to many western states.
If Hizbut Tahir want to use Indonesia to launch the global caliphate they are going to have a long slow job. The UK, France and Holland will be Islamic states long, long before Indonesia gets around to bothering with it.
The culture of the people in a place often has no relation to an organized cabal who, in essence, hijack it. I’ve often heard that the Indonesians are easy-going folks who are the most tolerant in all of Islam. That won’t prevent a small group of tyrants from assuming control.